Review Sofia @ Seduction

A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.
Do you dislike independent girls, like on leolist?
 
A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.

It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...
 
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It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...

Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?
 
Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?

Yes. Neither the beginning or ending shower are supposed be included in your paid time in most higher end body rubs, but a lot of people don't know that because so many massage girls include showers in the paid time regardless, and often even cut the session time short beyond that as well.

314156 is saying that a 45 minute session at a spa is equivalent to an hour session with an escort because your showers with an SP are included as part of the paid time, but since showers are not supposed to be included in your 45 minute spa time that effectively equals an hour in the room at the spa anyways.

Maybe that happens with quality girls you know and trust, but I find a lot of girls do everything possible to reduce both the total time in the room, as well as minimizing the time doing anything pleasurable you are hoping to actually get for the considerable amount of money you spend just to get in the room.

From what 314156 is saying if you book a 45 minute appointment you should be in the room for about an hour and won't start your shower until after you've had 45 minutes of fun time with your attendant.

That's the sales pitch, but the reality is rather different, to say the least...
 
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Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.
 
So is Seduction worth it? The girls rush and cut times, management/girls don't really care, they have you pay the hefty fees and then extras afterwards..
I get the selection is great but it seems that places like Classic Spa are better. Or am I wrong? My sessions at CS have been to pay the room fee upfront and then the attendant afterwards (though the ymmv concept plays there). I don't think CS girls cut for showers. I'm really interested if independent girls do these

How was Sofia regarding these things?
 
Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.

Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.
 
Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
That's just it... alot of the girls dont care as they think they will get by on random walk-ins based on looks and don't care about providing a good session to build regulars.
But for the spa - they should as it sours the taste we have toward the spa for allowing the girls to take advantage of the time
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.
 
I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.

Same here. Always go out of my way to be polite, friendly, gentle, and respectful. I have incredible sessions with all my favourites and always make sure they're well looked after.

I'm even really nice to the girls who cut my sessions short... I just never see them again.
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

Well there you have it! If you've ever had a short timed, rushed session now you know the reason why: It's because YOU were an arrogant asshole! Simple.
 
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Not just her eyebrows are applied with a spatula, all her makeup looks like it was applied while looking in a funhouse mirror!
Yeah. A face reveal is nice to see. And she looks good. But aside from the eyelashes and eyebrows, I would like to see a more natural look. Most guys I've talked to since I was a teenager, would rather prefer a natural look, but most girls don't think that way.
 
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    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Coco, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine and Sexy Chinese Bella
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Dupu , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบ Weclome to wonder spa (9421Jane st unit127)L6A4H8 โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,.๐Ÿ˜on Saturday4younge girl working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ’„new young girl Cici is beautiful Sweet and friendy girl good deep tissue massage,very popular,give you warm time,๐Ÿท nice Amy vatename girl service excellent massage open maid,she know what do you want,Holiday come to try๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŽ„โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธRebeccaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. Annie Spa:
    Our sexy new superstar Michelle is working today Saturday December 28th with gorgeous young girls Judy and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Michelle only works on Saturdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa on Saturdays when Michelle is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ100% real Michelle pictures๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8
  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  41. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Mimi, Sera & Cindy. Mimi is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs, and can hold a great convo in English or Japanese. Sara has DD cups and a medium build. She can provide an excellent bbbj and top quality massage.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Mia
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Coco, Nayla & Ada are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐ŸซฆCoco is a young sexy Taiwanese girl ๐Ÿ’„Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl ๐Ÿซฆ Ada is a sexy European Hottie ๐Ÿ‘„ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค—We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. lotushubspa:
    Hi, ๐Ÿ’‹Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹ is from China, Tina๐Ÿ’‹ is from Taiwan, ๐Ÿ’ฏJessica๐Ÿ’‹ is from South Korea, ๐Ÿ’ฏ lives at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Our promotion begins today! Enjoy a discount while having a great session!!
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 36DD with big buttocks open mind 30โ€™s and young cute Sophia slime, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in th
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