Review Sofia @ Seduction

A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.
Do you dislike independent girls, like on leolist?
 
A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.

It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...
 
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It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...

Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?
 
Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?

Yes. Neither the beginning or ending shower are supposed be included in your paid time in most higher end body rubs, but a lot of people don't know that because so many massage girls include showers in the paid time regardless, and often even cut the session time short beyond that as well.

314156 is saying that a 45 minute session at a spa is equivalent to an hour session with an escort because your showers with an SP are included as part of the paid time, but since showers are not supposed to be included in your 45 minute spa time that effectively equals an hour in the room at the spa anyways.

Maybe that happens with quality girls you know and trust, but I find a lot of girls do everything possible to reduce both the total time in the room, as well as minimizing the time doing anything pleasurable you are hoping to actually get for the considerable amount of money you spend just to get in the room.

From what 314156 is saying if you book a 45 minute appointment you should be in the room for about an hour and won't start your shower until after you've had 45 minutes of fun time with your attendant.

That's the sales pitch, but the reality is rather different, to say the least...
 
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Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.
 
So is Seduction worth it? The girls rush and cut times, management/girls don't really care, they have you pay the hefty fees and then extras afterwards..
I get the selection is great but it seems that places like Classic Spa are better. Or am I wrong? My sessions at CS have been to pay the room fee upfront and then the attendant afterwards (though the ymmv concept plays there). I don't think CS girls cut for showers. I'm really interested if independent girls do these

How was Sofia regarding these things?
 
Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.

Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.
 
Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
That's just it... alot of the girls dont care as they think they will get by on random walk-ins based on looks and don't care about providing a good session to build regulars.
But for the spa - they should as it sours the taste we have toward the spa for allowing the girls to take advantage of the time
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.
 
I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.

Same here. Always go out of my way to be polite, friendly, gentle, and respectful. I have incredible sessions with all my favourites and always make sure they're well looked after.

I'm even really nice to the girls who cut my sessions short... I just never see them again.
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

Well there you have it! If you've ever had a short timed, rushed session now you know the reason why: It's because YOU were an arrogant asshole! Simple.
 
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Not just her eyebrows are applied with a spatula, all her makeup looks like it was applied while looking in a funhouse mirror!
Yeah. A face reveal is nice to see. And she looks good. But aside from the eyelashes and eyebrows, I would like to see a more natural look. Most guys I've talked to since I was a teenager, would rather prefer a natural look, but most girls don't think that way.
 
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  34. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Jasmine, Echo, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Doris, busty Amber, Kelly & Luna โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. Bencook:
    Suko have many beautiful girls working here ๐Ÿ˜Newer lala 24,beautiful lineup Mia Nora student Hellen Big boobs jojo yumi please call 647 718 6182
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  42. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  46. starjey888:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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