sports massage therapists

How would listing the qualificaions I have written (all of which are currently on NDAQ / RRQ) 'back it up'!
I don't sign them so you would only question them

Anyway I fail to see why I should justify anything to you personally
As I said all those on this forum whose opinions I respect already know exactly who I am

Oh well I tried

Good luck with your Degree
Hope it gets you where you want to get in the industry but please do not consider it to be a 'magic ticket' to succeed

More important is luck, contacts and personality and, since I have not written any qualifications in these subjects, I cannot help you with any of them
 
Appologies to everyone on this forum for the direction this debate has evolved

In summary, removing all candor and rhetoric (and my final word on the subject) I would just like to say that although doing any Degree is laudable in my personal experience it is not always necessary
End of......
 
well i can honestly say i never thought my post would spark such anger so ive re-posted my original post and highlighted a few parts.

i wrote this post hoping that it would embrace that fact that we are different, that's why we have different titles ST/SMP but we need to work together to help promote our work and to make the public more aware of our industry.

So what if you have a degree or diploma, well done to you which ever you achieved. Those people who do rubbish courses will be rubbish therapist and will not last long in the real world.

But fighting, bickering and stabbing each other in the back helps no-one

like i said i wrote the post to help promote SM, i never said we were the same as ST, i am a SMP and want to be known as a professional therapist by the powers that be.

embrace and promote regardless of what you do
 
Hi Beagle

I'm not surprised at all, apart from the time delay between you first post and the flack afterwards. I've been on here for toooo long ;-)

I've often said on Hp that I'm happy to be a massage therapist and bodyworker, and it can be as sophisticated and skilled as any other therapy, if the practitioner wishes to go that way. So many therapies have overlaps, so it can be hard to come out with precise definitions. I have no answers to the ST/SMP quagmire (though definitions have been spoken about on Hp and syllabus links). Looking at your background, I would of thought that you would of benefited from being both a sports therapist & a massage therapist.

Best wishes

RP
 
Hi Beagle

These arguments are going on in different forums all over the world, profession against profession and internal arguing to boot, I wish you luck.

Regards steve
 
i can see that now, why we stab each all the time is beyond me, we are a caring profession, trained to help people get and feel better. this Attitude about who is better im really not about that. i dont claim to know or treat people better than any other therapist regardless of there qual.

all im trying to do is(although not doing very well at) promote our trade to the public. we all want more work and to recognized more. the more voices the louder we are and if SM & ST worked together then perhaps we would be able to work on a level playing field with other therapist

im not holding my breath. i was told today that physios are moving in a different direction away from hands on therapies, it will leave a whole for all of us if we work together.

we shall see
 
quite the opposite, Physio degrees are now reintroducing massage into the syllabus, in response to NICE report on LBP which recommended massage from appropriately trained therapists. Between 1 and 11 hours was common place before this acedemic year

regarding SMPs and STs working together, I fear there might be too much of a crossover of the basic skillset and therefore some will see it a competing for the same client base.
bgfl
 
yes i fear you maybe right.

the physio i was speaking had been in the industry for some time so it maybe just his practice but if physios are training more into massage then it show even more that we need to fight together to stop physios pulling what clients we get away from us. ive not meet a physio that is hands on yet so i doubt they will start

but as SM & ST do have many crossovers then we should just be one voice and make a point of what our trade we do for the public. we will just be left by the other professions and thats not good for us
 
Hi Richard (Beagle)
just to say how much I admire your optimisum, not only would I nominate you for the nobel peace prize I would def drop by for a rub when in coventry.
We all hold passionately held possitions that unfortunately all to easily decend into an unholy bunfight (quite how this all looks to the silent veiwing public I can't imagine).

your comments are a breath of fresh air
 
why thank you

having been a sports coach and personal trainer for so long i need my passion to flow out onto other so they will achieve their goals. im the same way with sports massage, it took me a long time to find this profession and now i embrace it, i wish we all could do the same.

to hear my clients say how freer they feel after having a treatment from me and when can they book for their next massage is very rewarding.

i am new to this business (only 4 years now) and i have a lot to learn, but it will not stop me being proactive and passionate about SM & ST, its the way forward regarding rehab, injury prevention, and damn right feeling good factor
 
I have been doing it a bit longer than you, and the realization that you can have such a positive effect on sufferers, getting them back to work, stopping an unnessecary operation,.........its a feeling that can't be beat
 
you hit the nail on the head there, how many other therapies like ours that can be a prevention to injury rather than a after effect. How many people will go to a physio once a month to keep supple or in condition, thats the benefit of SM it enables people to hopefully stay injury free
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (11am-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco, pretty Ella and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good.
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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