SWEDISH MASSAGE?

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I don't know if I'm being really thick [8D] but I can't find a definition of swedish massage! I have searched HP and also a 'google' search, but can't seem to find anything that appears to be any different from Holistic Massage.

I vaguely remember that ITEC use the term for massage using talc (in their MCQ specimen paper)

Can anyone solve my dilemma or point me to a web site that can?

Many thanks
 
hi there,

I thought it was a system of therapeutic massage and exercise of the muscles and joints, in sweden in the 19th century.

If you did a word search on the Q you asked..... what is the definition of swedish massage answers will come up... well they will on aol.

kathy
 
Hi Lyn

You may find the following web page interesting:

http://www.massagemag.com/2002/issue100/history100.htm

It explains why defining 'Swedish massage' isn't quite as easy as one might think !

Regards

Alan
 
I did an ITEC Swedish Massage course a couple of years ago, then they decided to call it 'holistic massage' when we had completed the course. We were taught Swedish Massage techniques but are qualified in 'holistic massage'!. I'm not sure if there is a difference either! Lisa
 
There is quite a lot on the internet which describes what Swedish Massage is, basically it was founded by Per Henrick Ling who developed some of the massage movements ie. effleurage, petrissage etc. and these movements form the basis for most other massage styles ie. it is a technique. Holistic Massage is an approach to massage which encompasses the "body, mind & spirit" ie the whole person.
 
Angelfish

Sorry to disagree, but I think that you are perpetuating a common misunderstanding. To quote again from
http://www.massagemag.com/2002/issue100/history100.htm



Regards

Alan
 
this thread raises an interesting point. in my view, there are so many names describing similar things...

when does a deep tissue massage become a sports massage... or a remedial massage? what do you add to a swedish massage to make it a holistic massage... or a therapeutic massage?

i'm sure there are more... are there widely accepted definitions out there that distinguish between them that have eluded me?

x

henry
 
speaking as a tutor, if you are doing the ITEC holistic massage course they may ask you to define holistic or swedish massage, whether we are all in agreement or not, the common things ITEC are looking for are "body, mind and spirit" and Per Henrick ling and the classic massage movements.
 
I agree that, if Lyn was asking the question for the purposes of an ITEC essay, it would be safer to stick with the โ€˜received wisdomโ€™. But the fact that ITEC have laid something down as โ€˜gospelโ€™ doesnโ€™t necessarily make it right!
Incidentally, when I did an ITEC course in the 1990s, the textbook we were required to use was โ€˜Principles & Practice of Physical Therapyโ€™ by W. Arnould-Taylor. That describes Swedish massage as โ€˜the manipulation of soft tissue for therapeutic purposesโ€™. It also states (as Lyn suggested in her original query) that โ€˜it is traditionally performed with talcum powderโ€™.
I am fascinated by the latter bit. I have received massage in quite a number of hotel spas and I have only once met a therapist who used talc (in fact she offered me a choice of oil or talc, and I chose oil). And although I have never visited Sweden, a friend of mine did visit Sweden on holiday some time ago, and confirmed that the therapists used oil. So I am fascinated (and slightly puzzled) as to the association of โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ and โ€˜massage with talcum powderโ€™.

Regards

Alan
 
hi alan,

i trained with that book too! and yes, i am always surprised about the talc bit, seeing as we didnt use it and recent research linking talc to being carcinogenic.

mind you, the book also shows massage as being done (on the back) from neck down, with pressure... whereas, i learnt sacrum up.
 
Hi Alan

Totally agree that ITEC isn't necessarily right and it is good that we look at what is and that there are loads of much more informative books than the L Tucker ones. As for talc the only time I have used it is in sports massage. I guess now that talc isn't welcomed in most circles because of the problems with asthma, carcinogens and mess, cornflour is a better option. You also see talc crop up in reflexology, but again I wouldn't choose to use it.

Strangely when I did my ITEC training our kit included a large vat of talc, none of which was touched.
 
Thanks for the varied replies. I will follow up the link from Alan D and try to put together a paragraph for my course work that keeps college, examiners and me happy!
 
As a postscript to this discussion about what exactly is a โ€˜Swedishโ€™ massage, I was interested to read Ambasadorโ€™s comment (on the โ€˜naked massageโ€™ thread):



My experience of massage in Germany is the same, and a friend of mine has had similar experience of massage in Sweden.

It is unfortunate that both ITEC and VTCT have launched courses entitled โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ when many of their tutors donโ€™t actually teach a full body massage (as weโ€™ve discussed on earlier threads, many tutors omit the abdomen and the glutes) and when many tutors seem to encourage their students to insist on a โ€˜compulsory underwearโ€™ policy, which I suspect that most Swedes would find as surprising as our American contributors seem to!

IMC sell two โ€˜massageโ€™ videos. The one entitled โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ shows the client naked (with towels as draping) and includes the abdomen and glutes. The one entitled โ€˜aromatherapy and massageโ€™ shows the client wearing knickers, and doesnโ€™t include the glutes.

I think that the lesson is that if a therapist doesnโ€™t want to give a โ€˜full bodyโ€™ massage (ie she isnโ€™t comfortable treating abdominals or glutes), and if she wants her clients to keep their underwear on, she shouldnโ€™t use the term โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ . Perhaps โ€˜holistic massageโ€™ might be a better description !

Alan
 
Holism (from holos, a Greek word meaning all, entire, total) .... entire that is, apart from the awkward bits so it seems. Personally I think I'd be right miffed if I booked an holistic session and only got two thirds done! [sm=angry-smiley-030.gif].

Whatever next? Hot Stone massage that doesn't use stones?

Maybe a more generic term like 'Wellness' massage is more appropriate?
 
Fair point โ€“ although โ€˜holisticโ€™ is usually used to mean โ€˜wholeโ€™ in the sense of the whole person (ie the mind as well as the body) rather than โ€˜the whole of the bodyโ€™. Perhaps โ€˜therapeutic massageโ€™ might be a better alternative. In the former ITEC textbook โ€˜Principles & Practice of Physical Therapyโ€™, Arnould-Taylor defined massage as โ€˜the manipulation of soft tissue for therapeutic purposesโ€™. And there is also a well-known American textbook called โ€˜Fundamentals of Therapeutic Massageโ€™.

Alan
 
hi i have just signed up at collage to do swedish massage i am a mutre student can anyone please give me a list of equipment and books i might need the course will not start untill jan 2010
thankyou valerie
 
Hi Valerie!

You will definitely need your whites for that one!! Full white uniform - like a dentist nurse!

And your Helen McGuiness book, thats full of mistakes!!

ITEC!

Good Luck!
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  40. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  42. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  46. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s and young flirty Mia 25โ€™s with curly body , pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls today, Niko and Kiki. They were both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back massage were great.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Sexy Busty Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ HELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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