SWEDISH MASSAGE?

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I don't know if I'm being really thick [8D] but I can't find a definition of swedish massage! I have searched HP and also a 'google' search, but can't seem to find anything that appears to be any different from Holistic Massage.

I vaguely remember that ITEC use the term for massage using talc (in their MCQ specimen paper)

Can anyone solve my dilemma or point me to a web site that can?

Many thanks
 
hi there,

I thought it was a system of therapeutic massage and exercise of the muscles and joints, in sweden in the 19th century.

If you did a word search on the Q you asked..... what is the definition of swedish massage answers will come up... well they will on aol.

kathy
 
Hi Lyn

You may find the following web page interesting:

http://www.massagemag.com/2002/issue100/history100.htm

It explains why defining 'Swedish massage' isn't quite as easy as one might think !

Regards

Alan
 
I did an ITEC Swedish Massage course a couple of years ago, then they decided to call it 'holistic massage' when we had completed the course. We were taught Swedish Massage techniques but are qualified in 'holistic massage'!. I'm not sure if there is a difference either! Lisa
 
There is quite a lot on the internet which describes what Swedish Massage is, basically it was founded by Per Henrick Ling who developed some of the massage movements ie. effleurage, petrissage etc. and these movements form the basis for most other massage styles ie. it is a technique. Holistic Massage is an approach to massage which encompasses the "body, mind & spirit" ie the whole person.
 
Angelfish

Sorry to disagree, but I think that you are perpetuating a common misunderstanding. To quote again from
http://www.massagemag.com/2002/issue100/history100.htm



Regards

Alan
 
this thread raises an interesting point. in my view, there are so many names describing similar things...

when does a deep tissue massage become a sports massage... or a remedial massage? what do you add to a swedish massage to make it a holistic massage... or a therapeutic massage?

i'm sure there are more... are there widely accepted definitions out there that distinguish between them that have eluded me?

x

henry
 
speaking as a tutor, if you are doing the ITEC holistic massage course they may ask you to define holistic or swedish massage, whether we are all in agreement or not, the common things ITEC are looking for are "body, mind and spirit" and Per Henrick ling and the classic massage movements.
 
I agree that, if Lyn was asking the question for the purposes of an ITEC essay, it would be safer to stick with the โ€˜received wisdomโ€™. But the fact that ITEC have laid something down as โ€˜gospelโ€™ doesnโ€™t necessarily make it right!
Incidentally, when I did an ITEC course in the 1990s, the textbook we were required to use was โ€˜Principles & Practice of Physical Therapyโ€™ by W. Arnould-Taylor. That describes Swedish massage as โ€˜the manipulation of soft tissue for therapeutic purposesโ€™. It also states (as Lyn suggested in her original query) that โ€˜it is traditionally performed with talcum powderโ€™.
I am fascinated by the latter bit. I have received massage in quite a number of hotel spas and I have only once met a therapist who used talc (in fact she offered me a choice of oil or talc, and I chose oil). And although I have never visited Sweden, a friend of mine did visit Sweden on holiday some time ago, and confirmed that the therapists used oil. So I am fascinated (and slightly puzzled) as to the association of โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ and โ€˜massage with talcum powderโ€™.

Regards

Alan
 
hi alan,

i trained with that book too! and yes, i am always surprised about the talc bit, seeing as we didnt use it and recent research linking talc to being carcinogenic.

mind you, the book also shows massage as being done (on the back) from neck down, with pressure... whereas, i learnt sacrum up.
 
Hi Alan

Totally agree that ITEC isn't necessarily right and it is good that we look at what is and that there are loads of much more informative books than the L Tucker ones. As for talc the only time I have used it is in sports massage. I guess now that talc isn't welcomed in most circles because of the problems with asthma, carcinogens and mess, cornflour is a better option. You also see talc crop up in reflexology, but again I wouldn't choose to use it.

Strangely when I did my ITEC training our kit included a large vat of talc, none of which was touched.
 
Thanks for the varied replies. I will follow up the link from Alan D and try to put together a paragraph for my course work that keeps college, examiners and me happy!
 
As a postscript to this discussion about what exactly is a โ€˜Swedishโ€™ massage, I was interested to read Ambasadorโ€™s comment (on the โ€˜naked massageโ€™ thread):



My experience of massage in Germany is the same, and a friend of mine has had similar experience of massage in Sweden.

It is unfortunate that both ITEC and VTCT have launched courses entitled โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ when many of their tutors donโ€™t actually teach a full body massage (as weโ€™ve discussed on earlier threads, many tutors omit the abdomen and the glutes) and when many tutors seem to encourage their students to insist on a โ€˜compulsory underwearโ€™ policy, which I suspect that most Swedes would find as surprising as our American contributors seem to!

IMC sell two โ€˜massageโ€™ videos. The one entitled โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ shows the client naked (with towels as draping) and includes the abdomen and glutes. The one entitled โ€˜aromatherapy and massageโ€™ shows the client wearing knickers, and doesnโ€™t include the glutes.

I think that the lesson is that if a therapist doesnโ€™t want to give a โ€˜full bodyโ€™ massage (ie she isnโ€™t comfortable treating abdominals or glutes), and if she wants her clients to keep their underwear on, she shouldnโ€™t use the term โ€˜Swedish massageโ€™ . Perhaps โ€˜holistic massageโ€™ might be a better description !

Alan
 
Holism (from holos, a Greek word meaning all, entire, total) .... entire that is, apart from the awkward bits so it seems. Personally I think I'd be right miffed if I booked an holistic session and only got two thirds done! [sm=angry-smiley-030.gif].

Whatever next? Hot Stone massage that doesn't use stones?

Maybe a more generic term like 'Wellness' massage is more appropriate?
 
Fair point โ€“ although โ€˜holisticโ€™ is usually used to mean โ€˜wholeโ€™ in the sense of the whole person (ie the mind as well as the body) rather than โ€˜the whole of the bodyโ€™. Perhaps โ€˜therapeutic massageโ€™ might be a better alternative. In the former ITEC textbook โ€˜Principles & Practice of Physical Therapyโ€™, Arnould-Taylor defined massage as โ€˜the manipulation of soft tissue for therapeutic purposesโ€™. And there is also a well-known American textbook called โ€˜Fundamentals of Therapeutic Massageโ€™.

Alan
 
hi i have just signed up at collage to do swedish massage i am a mutre student can anyone please give me a list of equipment and books i might need the course will not start untill jan 2010
thankyou valerie
 
Hi Valerie!

You will definitely need your whites for that one!! Full white uniform - like a dentist nurse!

And your Helen McGuiness book, thats full of mistakes!!

ITEC!

Good Luck!
 
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  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  46. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Ivy Singapore Sweetheart Girl With Amazing Personality Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-446-0886
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