The cost of hobbying (killing us!!!)

It's the oldest profession in the world - so let's not kid ourselves.

It took me a while to realize that I needed to be more socially responsible in the MP's I visited. I don't go to anywhere that I suspect could involve human trafficing (ie. Brimley and Sheppard) or places where the girls aren't treated well (ie. Half the spa's in North York) or places where they are unsanitary and put the girls and myself at risk (ie. 90% of the no-name spa's out there). I've been hobbying for over 15 years so it took me a while to realize these things. I do think they should have a standard - like coffee places that purchase from Fair Trade Countrys - where the spa outlines that it does treat the MP's properly and helps to provide a future for them.

I know that Muse does this and I think Plat's but I'm not 100% sure. I can tell you that these business practices keep me coming back because they attract happy girls who are looking to build a better life for themselves and the owners want to help them achieve that goal. They aren't looking to just work them to death which I've seen in some spa's as well.

Hey, it's an ugly industry, it's a hobby no one wants to talk about and it's the job no one wants to do, but it's a reality, so we deal with it. If you can't afford it, don't do it and take some accountability for yourself and your own actions.

Sorry for the rant but this shit gets me pretty steamed.
 
On his master piece of gibberish, this has to be the crowning statement. Again, it supports previous comments that those with weak/confused minds that are the true causes of their messed up lives never take responsibility for their own actions but to put the blame on anything within earshot. "The Battle Hymn of The Tiger Mum" is now the cause of the yellow plague that invades North American massage parlors. Holy crap. Totally mind numbing stuff, and a whole lot more scary than all these talks of addiction, STD and decadent train wreck lives!
 
I am glad someone sees it like me!!! There are plenty of examples of MPAs that can't quit (i.e. Ashley, 62 y/o, @ Star) and hobbyists in too deep (broke, lonely, infected STD) being turned away by spa owners like MPAsquared. This situation is sad, but worse if you investigate this industry further - just ask any veteran MPA.
 
Anyone who does anything too much tends to dislike themselves once it becomes compulsive. It's no longer just about pleasure, but about filling voids that are best served by other activities. It's rather simple. Many hobbyists are disciplined in other areas of their lives, perhaps rigidly so, but gorge themselves on pussy in their hobbying, and find themselves out of control. I'm merely saying that pulling back can give you a fresh perspective about yourself and you can enjoy the hobby in moderation.
 
Good news stories are not news. For example, you hear stories about a couple of guys getting stabbed in the Entertainment District every weekend but you don't hear about the 100,000 who went, drank and danced a bit and arrived home safe and sound.

There are "train wreck" stories in every walk of life. Did you hear of that dentist in Swansea who murdered his family and then committed suicide?
 
Thats a fancy way of twisting what I said. Pretty colors and all.
 
I agree with all you say but this industry is NOT prohibited - prostitution is not illegal, massage parlours & strip joints are licensed, etc. You do know how long Prohibition lasted in the States?
 
Old male Rockslinger family proverb: "We all need a little sleaze in our lives."
 
Well said. I got out of the hobby for a long while and actually started to like myself a lot more. I thought-like a lot of men here-that more hobby equals more happiness, but eventually it means less happiness, more compulsion. The hobby is so centralized now because of the Internet, it's just all about how much pussy you can grab on one side of the equation, and how much quick cash on the other side. It doesn't make for much fun. Fakeness degrades all parties.

You have to be selective in using the hobby. That's how you keep it fresh, and don't bankrupt yourself.
 
Indeed. Weak minded, weak character people will screw up their lives wherever, whatever, whether it's through hobbying, speed driving, drinking, smoking, gambling, you name it. Call it what you will, fate, pre-determination, karma, our lives are the end products of our choices which are invariably driven by our characters. To blame it on anything else other than taking responsibilities for our own actions is the ultimate expression of that weak character.
 
Really the question is how you define what is "too much", and I think we need to be careful when we say there's such a thing as too much pussy, especially in this forum.

I think given many of the perspectives expressed in this thread about STDs, broken families, addiction, psychologically damaged MPAs, the good old days when massage wasn't available, etc. etc. etc., what would logically qualify as "too much" in many of these cases is any involvement in the business whatsoever. Likewise, when you write about how hobbying less makes you feel better about yourself, voids best served by other activities and so forth, why would it not be the case that simply avoiding hobbying altogether would not make you feel the very best of all?

Alas we want to have our cake and eat it too, and so the best solution is "moderation." If you are losing control and becoming compulsive I agree moderation is very important, but like so many things in life, moderation is best when we simply apply it as necessary to our own personal circumstance, rather than prescribing it to everyone else regardless of the need.
 
+1
my lifes a mess at the moment.

Emily, yes some clients seem fairly normal and can run a normal successful life e.g see tiger woods
But some clients who give you generic reasons as to why they go here maybe pretty mess up themselves or going here to cope with their problems
 
Exactly. You're talking about imminent death. Some guy died this past weekend skiing. It happens.

If all that's happening is a rub by an MPA, maybe your risks are lower. But hehe....



The low point in my story was when I found myself going just because I had time, not because I was in the mood, often going 3-4 times a week. I remember one Saturday afternoon almost two years ago. I was bored, and just started driving as I debated whether to get a session. I went from downtown to Etobicoke, Mississauga, back to North York and ending up on St. Clair for a really crappy session with a girl I can't even describe now. That's when I realized how absolutely stupid I had become.
 
That's another valid viewpoint. If it's not a family that's driving you to take home more pay, it's your mistresses!
 
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