This is very tragic....

[Loren]

Bingo.....

 

[Lizard]

Are you sure Maurice?....please let me check your bingo card :he:

ps. Tboy, I am not naive at all and secondly I dont drive a car anymore. Instead I cycle or take the
cab/ttc. SO I am not one of those drivers.

 

[coolade]

Just sayin :neutral:
If you're gonna stand for something, youre kinda undermining it by trying to contradict yourself with seemingly less harsh synonyms

 

[Pompal 09.]

Ok, here's an example for you:

If you are peddaling down a quiet residential side street and (like all cyclists) run a stop sign and get flattened by a car coming from the cross street, do you blame the car driver? or do you accept some of the fault?

 

[clncarplz]

Happened to me the other day. The car is always at fault according to the screams of the cyclist.
No charges were laid however because they haven't found the body.

 

[biswajit g]

Your expecting a straight answer for Fred Astaire?

 

[Rare]

nah, I'm expecting a dance routine reminiscent of 'dancing with the stars' lol....

You know why he won't answer right?

 

[One More Year Nick! (2)]

maurcie...do you need a hug? and my answer for Tboy's....

 

[Awesome Kevin- 47 (AK-47)]

Ok I am back. I dont understand the fuss if I dont reply to your question quickly. Secondly I don't have a computer with me 24/7. SO you just have to learn to be patient.

Anyway, back to your question....well TBoy...first of all, the driver was driving tooo fast as we all know the speed limit on a quiet residential side street is 20km/h or less. SO the driver was absolutely reckless in this situation.

Secondly, cyclists have to be aware of the potential dangers in front of them....in this case, he/she ran through a stop sign which he/she must take some responsibility for it. I know you are thrilled with my answer but I still think the SF baseball fan shouldnt be blamed nor take some responsibility for being beaten up badly. I truly believe this is entirely a separate issue. However I did agree with you that although we like to think we live in a civilized society, w ehave to be aware of the potential dangers out there.

Tboy and Maurice, I do enjoy and respect your views on many issues. However, you have to respect my opinions as well as others despite not agreeing with mine/theirs. Then again, you don't have to. Yet I look forward to many of your opinions/concerns/posts.

ps. I seriously can break-dance.

 

[Jennifer Lopez]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...-fan-beating-case-Bryan-Stow-052211?gt1=39002

Police detain suspect in MLB fan beating

Updated May 22, 2011 4:33 PM ET
LOS ANGELES

Police detained a suspect Sunday in the attack on a San Francisco Giants fan outside Dodger Stadium after a game between the rival teams, a brutal beating that prompted an outpouring of support for the victim and outrage in the sports world and beyond.
The suspect, whose name was not immediately released, was among several people detained for questioning after police served search warrants, Los Angeles police Det. Jose Carillo said. Police said he was one of two suspects that have been sought in the case.

It's unclear whether the others detained were possible witnesses or suspects in the March 31 beating that left Bryan Stow with brain damage, said police Sgt. Kunch, who declined to give his first name per department policy.
Several search warrants were served at an apartment building, Kunch said, but he couldn't say how many people were detained or whether they are male or female. Building manager Maritza Camacho told the Los Angeles Times that a SWAT team descended on the East Hollywood apartment using loudspeakers and with guns drawn.
Among the people taken out the building was a man with a bald head and tattoos on his neck and arms, Camacho said, a description that appeared to match the vague sketches released by police of one of the two suspects.
Stow, a 42-year-old paramedic and father of two, was beaten in a parking lot by two men in Dodgers gear after the season opener against the Giants. No arrests have been made.
Last week, doctors reported that Stow is able to open his eyes but remains in critical condition after being transferred to San Francisco General Hospital. Stow had been at Los Angeles County-University of Southern California Medical Center since the attack that forced doctors to put him into a medically induced coma to avoid having seizures.
Police Chief Charlie Beck said recently that detectives are looking into about 500 leads in their search for the attackers. Rewards totaling more than $200,000 have been offered for information leading to the suspects' arrests.
Stow's sister said police called her family Sunday morning to inform them about the search warrants.
"I can't even tell you the emotions that we're going through right now," Bonnie Stow told KABC-TV, occasionally choking back tears. "To be excited is the least we can say."
An outpouring of support for Stow included fundraisers that ranged from bowling tournaments to pasta dinners to donated services such as haircuts and fitness classes. The events are listed on the family's blog.
Giants manager Bruce Bochy said he heard Sunday morning that a suspect was in custody.
"Great news. It's been hard on the family," Bochy said before the Giants hosted Oakland. "For them to work as hard as they have been, I'm talking about the police department, to have a suspect in hand is great news. Hopefully they'll catch everybody who was involved in this senseless act."
Giants team officials also released a statement commending Los Angeles police and thanking "the community for its tremendous support for the Stow family during this difficult time."
Dodger officials said the team's first official reaction will come during a Sunday afternoon press conference.
Giants fan Les Wong, 37 of San Francisco celebrated the news as he headed to the game.
"It's good to hear that they caught someone. That kind of thing doesn't belong in sports," said Wong, who was wearing a Giants hat and Giants t-shirt. "I'm glad to hear there is going to be some sort of justice."
Stow, who was wearing Giants gear, was leaving the game at Dodger Stadium with two friends when he was attacked. Moments earlier, Stow texted a family member to say he feared for his safety in the rowdy crowd.
Following the attack, Beck beefed up security at Dodger Stadium to deal with fights that had been breaking out at games in recent years.
Baseball fans have complained that anyone who dares to wear a rival team's jersey on Dodger turf has too-often been subjected to profane verbal abuse and threats of violence.

 

[Hf unknown]

that's good news...let's hope the people they have in custody are the actual people that did this, not just someone who looks like the ones......

 

[Lucy Anna]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...ium-previous-suspect-cleared-072111?GT1=39002

Report: 2 arrested in Giants fan beating
NewsCore

Updated Jul 22, 2011 9:51 AM ET
Two people were arrested Thursday in relation to the assault of Bryan Stow, the San Francisco Giants fan who was severely beaten outside Dodger Stadium in March, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Giovanni Ramirez, 31, who was arrested in May and had been suspected of the crime, was exonerated, the newspaper said, citing a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

But Los Angeles Police Department Lieutenant Andy Neiman refused to confirm if the Times report was true when questioned by FOX News Channel.
"The Stow investigation continues. We are making good progress and as details become available we will share them with the public," Neiman said.
He also said the LAPD did not have any events planned where announcements of developments would be revealed.

Ramirez was never charged for the assault but was last week ordered to serve 10 months in prison for a parole violation.

One of Ramirez's attorneys, Jose Romero, suggested the defense team unearthed important information to bolster Ramirez's case.
''The police played hide and seek so we did our own digging,'' Romero said. ''This is our golden nugget. He's been innocent from the beginning.''
Another lawyer for Ramirez, Anthony Brooklier, told the Times he had not heard about any developments in the case.
"I haven't heard anything [about new arrests] yet," Brooklier said. "But if it's true I'm happy for my client. I always believed he was factually innocent. There was a lot of pressure on LAPD. I believe that they were operating in good faith and made a good faith mistake."

Stow, a 42-year-old paramedic and father of two, suffered severe brain injuries during a savage beating in the Dodger Stadium parking lot on Opening Day, sending shockwaves across the sporting community and sparking a major hunt for his assailants.

His condition was upgraded from critical to serious last month, with doctors saying that he was breathing without a ventilator. His family said Wednesday that he underwent emergency surgery in a San Francisco hospital this week.

According to the family's website, Stow's medical team decided to operate after he suffered a 30-second seizure, most likely caused by a buildup of fluid in his brain.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Holy crap, it is almost like I was....how do you say.....psychic?

 

[Ohms Lawyer]

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