Tipping...in the corporate environment?

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I've been reading in a lot of posts about tipping in the corporate environment.
I'm looking for feedback/opinions from U.S. and Canadian therapists alike on this.

With all due respect, I personally and professionally don't agree with tipping massage therapists in a corporate environment or clinical environment. Were medical professionals -- not hairstylists or waiters. Do you tip your doctor? Your dentist? Your chiropractor? I think it kind of "cheapens" our knowledge/skill base. Spa....yea that is different.

Dave
 


We see a mixed bag of behavior.

Our employee - pays client, about 1/3 of the folks tip.

Our employer-paid clients, hardly anyone tips.

Our 3rd party pays is split -- between nearly everyone tipping and no one tipping.

Tradeshows and promo events where it is free, first come first-served and open to everyone, hardly anyone gets in the chair without offering something afterward. They figure they are getting a free treat, so they even overtip -- giving as much as $10 for a 10 minute rub!

When it is more of closed population - services sent to a client or vendor as a thank you, or a hospitality suite environment - no one tips, figuring all payment is taken care of.

We pay our therapists for all work performed, so they are not reliant on tips to make it worth their tiem.
 


I think tipping is a culture thing. Only in america is it expected. Most place like europe have the tips accounted for in the retail price. In Japan, tip is forbidden.

Almost all therapist that does massage as preventative healthcare don't expect tips. those that do pampering type expect tip because they usually work at a fast pace spa. Often the case, management would use tip as a guage to calculate the therapist's pay, which is illegal. You can tell which establishment do this when they comment that tips will make your salary higher. Many Spas are known to do this in SF from consensus among community massage therapist here. If they don't do that then they would hype the price to let clients pay for it. example would be 80-90 bucks for half hour massage and 175-190 bucks for 1 hr massage. I wonder if they actually make money with those prices. many people aren't rich to spend that kind of money on frequent biweekly basis for pampering massage. I guess their target market is rich folks or those that see massage as luxury so they don't mind spending that once or few times a year. Anyways, back to the tips issue.

Tips are not mandatory but american culture makes it seems so. where I use to work, the receptionist and other therapist would get a big fit and be angry when a client didn't tip me. usually this happens with tourist who don't know what a tip is. tips are not part of where they live.

My rule of thumb is. if they tip, accept it. it's appreciation and show that they value you. It is also feedback that you should charge more if it happens often like 70% of your clients overtipping. if they don't tip. it's fine too. sometime refusing insults them. You can always suggest they use the tip for future sessions. think of money as a relationship, if you reject it, what messages are you sending to the world? gotta respect money. it's alive because it has the person's intent behind it. think of it this way. sometimes clients tip more because it's their way of tithing so that they feel good. the law of giving and receiving. the bottomline is, do what is comfortable for you.
 


I don't think a tip "cheapens" our profession. What we do is much more "make you feel good" than a doctor or chiro. Watch any person who walks out of a massage. Yeah, we're improving your health, but in a much different way.

On the other hand, a lot of people JUST DON'T TIP. So in my private practice I charge I want I need to make. If they tip, it is truly an extra. I DON'T NEED IT. I do like it. But at the spa where I work, I want everyone to tip, although many don't. I'm okay with them not tipping. Just prefer that they do.

I really believe that "tipping policy" changes so much from person to person that each massage therapist needs to make their own peace with it. I always think it's nice when someone tips. But I don't think lesser of someone if they don't.

Best,
Shiva
 


If it's an employee pay event, about half tip.

If it's an employer pay environment, like one of my weekly jobs, I discourage tipping, assuring everyone that I'm being taken care of.

If it's a convention or a health fair, and we're being sponsored by the event or a company, I have my therapists refuse the initial attempt at tipping, once again assuring the client that they (the therapist) is being taken care of. If the client insists a second time, it's ok to take it.....some people feel better if they can tip and we don't want them to leave unhappy or upset just because of tips.

I get paid well enough that I could care less about tips. I pay well enough that my therapists could care less about tips.
 


Hi Dave,

Being from Ontario as well, I was trained with the same mentality you have. It is in my literature that tipping isn't necessary, that I would prefer referrals of friends and family instead. But I don't want to offend. If someone asks me if they should tip, my response is an emphatic no, just the fee is more than enough. But if they don't ask, and do tip, I simply say, you didn't have to do that, gently hand back the money. I don't make a big deal, and if they push hard enough I will take it, though it rarely happens. Like YFChoice said, I don't want someone to leave with a bad taste in their mouth because I wouldn't take their $5, so I do use my discretion, and discourage it.

I work in a chiro clinic, so almost no tipping there, and the corporate work I do, I never get tipped, unless I go way above and beyond, and still I don't expect, and discourage, but it sometimes happens. I would have to say, the only people that consistently tip me are the RCMP when I direct bill to their blue cross plan. The individual pays me nothing, so they tend to tip a little.

All in all I definitely do not make a living off tips, and price accordingly, and everyone seems happy.
 


Tipping rocks! Especially when it comes in large dollar bills...although I completely understand your concern. It's the nature of the industry I think.
 


Myrrha said:
It is in my literature that tipping isn't necessary, that I would prefer referrals of friends and family instead. But I don't want to offend. If someone asks me if they should tip, my response is an emphatic no, just the fee is more than enough. But if they don't ask, and do tip, I simply say, you didn't have to do that, gently hand back the money. I don't make a big deal, and if they push hard enough I will take it, though it rarely happens. Like YFChoice said, I don't want someone to leave with a bad taste in their mouth because I wouldn't take their $5, so I do use my discretion, and discourage it.

... and the corporate work I do, I never get tipped...

All in all I definitely do not make a living off tips, and price accordingly, and everyone seems happy.

Ditto, ditto, ditto.
 
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    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN (3PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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