Tipping is voluntary... so why do MPAs get mad if you give less???

Why don't you ask the girl who told me that?

i know lots of girls don't see it that way, especially at Richaceg's fave hangout. Mileage is plainly a customer retention technique. Thank goodness.
 
Toronto bylaws specify that all services offered by a spa must be posted in a pricelist, and a spa cannot offer a service that is not on their approved pricelist. Many spas simply assert that all they provide is massage, which is priced as their door fee. Anything that happens inside the room is between the customer and the independant contractor/MPA. So, they don't/can't post those prices.

Certain types of spas have additional by-laws issues, such as customers and MPAs not allowed to have "specified body parts" exposed. You can imagine the difficulty in advertising N/NR/BS if you are not supposed to be naked in the first place (never mind touching each other's naughty bits!).
 
HAHAHAHA. Exceptional service should include mileage. Competitiveness and anomosity dont breed business, they deter it. I can't tell u how many times I've heard clients tell me tales of not going to a spa because some other girl would get mad. OMG! Its not high school or a boyfriend! Massage is specifically for variety! 31 Flavors. If he wanted the same old, he'd stay home. An MPA with skills and confidance in her service would infact recommend other MPAs whos services that client might enjoy. Back in tha day, I'd rather a guy see my friends than go elsewhere!
 
You've said that many times on here, but that's not my point. If you know a guy doesn't stay loyal, there's no point giving him super mileage because it makes no difference to him as a client. At least, that's what you've also said before. That makes sense to me. Why give away the ultimate mileage to be one of his many regulars? In hopes of a repeat what, once a month?
 
I don't go to mps any more but used to go to SRM,HFH,IT, PA and Allure. Now I know why I always get good service. I never ask the mpa how much for what service. All I did was pick the lady after screening thru' reviews, once I got there, put $120 (100+tip) on the place where she can see the amount clearly for my 45 minutes session and behaved like a gentleman. Even when they asked me what do I like.. I just told them what ever I can get out of that money. They always responded with a big smile and always get a spectacular service and some times their phone numbers without being asked. Some times I tip a little extra after the session if they did a little extra for me and treat me well. I'd rather have a great service with a little extra $$ than a lousy service by bargaining, negotiating and dealing with upselling from ladies.
 
And if the Taxi only get you 2/3 of the way to the Airport ?
Taxi breaks down ?
It runs out of gas ?
You and the driver have an arguement and he askes you to get out?
He takes the long way to the airport and you object?

Would you still pay him the full agreed upon amount?
Not a chance in hell

Do I expect him to get upset ?
I do not care
 
You are kidding right? That's like saying u went to Walmart, asked how much a TV is, the sales guy says $200, say great I'll take it, and then slap down $100 and walk out the door wondering why everyone is upset.

Sweeety, we all know u aren't shy, if u get sub-par service speak up WHILE ur in there. If she's going in for the kill too early you watch the reaction to saying "ok if I finish now I'm taking $40 back". U can't agree upon a service and then pay less afterwards and wonder why a girl "reminds you" the amount u agreed upon. Its not a flea market! Don't be cheap! Speak up to the girl and management before or during or after your sub-par service. Be a gentleman, not a jackass.

Regradless what u call it, u agree to an amount, pay it. Period.
 
Are you stunned or what ?

Have you never had a secession where the MPA
a) turns a 1/2 hour into 18 mins
b) Keeps the good parts at arms length
c) leans on you and calls it a body slide
d) is obviously not into being in the room with you
e) has a terrible attitude
f) gives you a real hard time when your hands start to roam (For the record if a MPA indicates she does not want to be touched in a specific area , I respect her wishes & do not venture there again)
g) informs you that she is OTR after the fact
h) smells kinda bad

There is a lot of factors which go into a pleasant and memorable time with a MPA and any one of the above will ruin it
Unless she is an absolute fool she knows exactly when each and everyone of those issues is occurring and the service should be discounted appropriately

MPA are in the service business and should only get the agreed upon tip when the agreed upon service is delivered

As for the difference between opinion & fact, you could make the same arguement for any position anyone makes here, including any of your statements.

Generally the service I recieve from MPA is pretty good, so there is not often an issue.
 
Price vs. Tip.
That is your opinion, not a fact
(sound familar ?)


I tend to view it as a tip and tip well when the service is good
 
That was my point. If session is going so awful just leave never to return.
Why prolong the agony?
Most girls will happily go into overtime if session going well regardless of what you agreed upon.
 
Probably, but in my experience: haft of the time it's been up front. And guess what, those are the time it's been subpar service. Warning sign, heh!
 
If I have a good time with the girl I always give an extra $20-$40 on top the the session fee. If I have a poor experience I give no tip. Sweety that's like saying I'm going for a lapdance with a girl, take her for 3 songs and say "I wasn't pleased with that I'm only giving you $10 per dance". C'mon man give your head a shake.
 
What you call tipping is not tipping. regardless of whether there is a price list on the wall you are in a negotiation with the mpa with regard to what will happen between the 2 of you in that room for the next 30 40 or 60 minutes.

One thing you can always do from the beginning is say something like, I'm looking to spend xyz amount and I like doing abc things. Seriously this works. As long as the list of abc things is relatively normal you will find out right away if you are going to get them.

Spas with set price lists are likely going to be more rigid with you, if one thing you ask for falls in a more expensive category then hey that will be what you pay. If the service is delivered on regardless of what quality it was, then you gotta pay.
 
It's a price not a tip; a session, not a secession. If there are a lot of factors, you want a plural verb. No, I've never had experiences like those. Maybe I'm just lucky; maybe I'm more picky; maybe you hobby way more than I do. None of the above elevates subjective experience into a law of economics.

Any commercial exchange is a contract, and leaving the contract undiscussed and unspecified before the exchange is dangerous. Not speaking up immediately when the service is less than contracted for, is foolish, and unilaterally reducing agreed payment will always spark the discussionsโ€”which may be widened to include either party's circle of friends and associates, wheter lawyers or goonsโ€”that should have taken place earlier.

Any contract is a two-way deal whether you're entering into it or trying to get out; only a real tip is at the buyer's discretion alone. Don't confuse yourself and the discussion by using 'tip' when you mean 'price'
 
Tips are not necessary but most people pay them. I do not beleive in a standerd scale though and have seen amounts that vary by spa & by girl.
I have given better tips for great service, and I have even had girls ask for a much smaller amount than what was discussed beforehand (two girls in particular even refused to take a tip afterwards which leads me to think it is not all acting sometimes).
I also have seen girls use part of the tip to extend the time by offsetting the room fees & 1 girl who once told me I could pay a small tip if I agreed to come back the next week.

That's why I have an issue with the many replies that want to set in stone a 20 40 60 80 100 120 scale.
 
Now now TP, I think that's not the right mentality for the MP. If you're giving great service, it doesn't matter who else the customer sees. Clients may wonder somewhere else to look for a better session but if the MP gave him an awesome session, most likely he will come back. Nobody stays with one MP and MPs should know that.
 
As a hobbyist, I agree wholeheartedly.

That "mentality" was explained to me by none other than Emily herself. Some guys see every girl in a spa. Some guys will only see one girl, time after time. Who do you think got the better treatment?

Perhaps the distinction is that if an MPA's reportoire includes high mileage as "great service", she's not going to hold back. That's not what I'm saying. My understanding/proposition is that an MPA may not go over and above her normal reportoire if she knows that she isn't special to you.
 
So for a Body Slide.....say $50 room fee....and $100 for the slide...

What r u guys tipping?
 
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  32. vnycool:
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  33. Shangri-la Spa:
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  34. Moneylee:
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  36. Sunrise Spa:
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  38. Sparkling Spa:
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  39. wonderspa:
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  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  46. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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