Tipping is voluntary... so why do MPAs get mad if you give less???

Why don't you ask the girl who told me that?

i know lots of girls don't see it that way, especially at Richaceg's fave hangout. Mileage is plainly a customer retention technique. Thank goodness.
 
Toronto bylaws specify that all services offered by a spa must be posted in a pricelist, and a spa cannot offer a service that is not on their approved pricelist. Many spas simply assert that all they provide is massage, which is priced as their door fee. Anything that happens inside the room is between the customer and the independant contractor/MPA. So, they don't/can't post those prices.

Certain types of spas have additional by-laws issues, such as customers and MPAs not allowed to have "specified body parts" exposed. You can imagine the difficulty in advertising N/NR/BS if you are not supposed to be naked in the first place (never mind touching each other's naughty bits!).
 
HAHAHAHA. Exceptional service should include mileage. Competitiveness and anomosity dont breed business, they deter it. I can't tell u how many times I've heard clients tell me tales of not going to a spa because some other girl would get mad. OMG! Its not high school or a boyfriend! Massage is specifically for variety! 31 Flavors. If he wanted the same old, he'd stay home. An MPA with skills and confidance in her service would infact recommend other MPAs whos services that client might enjoy. Back in tha day, I'd rather a guy see my friends than go elsewhere!
 
You've said that many times on here, but that's not my point. If you know a guy doesn't stay loyal, there's no point giving him super mileage because it makes no difference to him as a client. At least, that's what you've also said before. That makes sense to me. Why give away the ultimate mileage to be one of his many regulars? In hopes of a repeat what, once a month?
 
I don't go to mps any more but used to go to SRM,HFH,IT, PA and Allure. Now I know why I always get good service. I never ask the mpa how much for what service. All I did was pick the lady after screening thru' reviews, once I got there, put $120 (100+tip) on the place where she can see the amount clearly for my 45 minutes session and behaved like a gentleman. Even when they asked me what do I like.. I just told them what ever I can get out of that money. They always responded with a big smile and always get a spectacular service and some times their phone numbers without being asked. Some times I tip a little extra after the session if they did a little extra for me and treat me well. I'd rather have a great service with a little extra $$ than a lousy service by bargaining, negotiating and dealing with upselling from ladies.
 
And if the Taxi only get you 2/3 of the way to the Airport ?
Taxi breaks down ?
It runs out of gas ?
You and the driver have an arguement and he askes you to get out?
He takes the long way to the airport and you object?

Would you still pay him the full agreed upon amount?
Not a chance in hell

Do I expect him to get upset ?
I do not care
 
You are kidding right? That's like saying u went to Walmart, asked how much a TV is, the sales guy says $200, say great I'll take it, and then slap down $100 and walk out the door wondering why everyone is upset.

Sweeety, we all know u aren't shy, if u get sub-par service speak up WHILE ur in there. If she's going in for the kill too early you watch the reaction to saying "ok if I finish now I'm taking $40 back". U can't agree upon a service and then pay less afterwards and wonder why a girl "reminds you" the amount u agreed upon. Its not a flea market! Don't be cheap! Speak up to the girl and management before or during or after your sub-par service. Be a gentleman, not a jackass.

Regradless what u call it, u agree to an amount, pay it. Period.
 
Are you stunned or what ?

Have you never had a secession where the MPA
a) turns a 1/2 hour into 18 mins
b) Keeps the good parts at arms length
c) leans on you and calls it a body slide
d) is obviously not into being in the room with you
e) has a terrible attitude
f) gives you a real hard time when your hands start to roam (For the record if a MPA indicates she does not want to be touched in a specific area , I respect her wishes & do not venture there again)
g) informs you that she is OTR after the fact
h) smells kinda bad

There is a lot of factors which go into a pleasant and memorable time with a MPA and any one of the above will ruin it
Unless she is an absolute fool she knows exactly when each and everyone of those issues is occurring and the service should be discounted appropriately

MPA are in the service business and should only get the agreed upon tip when the agreed upon service is delivered

As for the difference between opinion & fact, you could make the same arguement for any position anyone makes here, including any of your statements.

Generally the service I recieve from MPA is pretty good, so there is not often an issue.
 
Price vs. Tip.
That is your opinion, not a fact
(sound familar ?)


I tend to view it as a tip and tip well when the service is good
 
That was my point. If session is going so awful just leave never to return.
Why prolong the agony?
Most girls will happily go into overtime if session going well regardless of what you agreed upon.
 
Probably, but in my experience: haft of the time it's been up front. And guess what, those are the time it's been subpar service. Warning sign, heh!
 
If I have a good time with the girl I always give an extra $20-$40 on top the the session fee. If I have a poor experience I give no tip. Sweety that's like saying I'm going for a lapdance with a girl, take her for 3 songs and say "I wasn't pleased with that I'm only giving you $10 per dance". C'mon man give your head a shake.
 
What you call tipping is not tipping. regardless of whether there is a price list on the wall you are in a negotiation with the mpa with regard to what will happen between the 2 of you in that room for the next 30 40 or 60 minutes.

One thing you can always do from the beginning is say something like, I'm looking to spend xyz amount and I like doing abc things. Seriously this works. As long as the list of abc things is relatively normal you will find out right away if you are going to get them.

Spas with set price lists are likely going to be more rigid with you, if one thing you ask for falls in a more expensive category then hey that will be what you pay. If the service is delivered on regardless of what quality it was, then you gotta pay.
 
It's a price not a tip; a session, not a secession. If there are a lot of factors, you want a plural verb. No, I've never had experiences like those. Maybe I'm just lucky; maybe I'm more picky; maybe you hobby way more than I do. None of the above elevates subjective experience into a law of economics.

Any commercial exchange is a contract, and leaving the contract undiscussed and unspecified before the exchange is dangerous. Not speaking up immediately when the service is less than contracted for, is foolish, and unilaterally reducing agreed payment will always spark the discussionsโ€”which may be widened to include either party's circle of friends and associates, wheter lawyers or goonsโ€”that should have taken place earlier.

Any contract is a two-way deal whether you're entering into it or trying to get out; only a real tip is at the buyer's discretion alone. Don't confuse yourself and the discussion by using 'tip' when you mean 'price'
 
Tips are not necessary but most people pay them. I do not beleive in a standerd scale though and have seen amounts that vary by spa & by girl.
I have given better tips for great service, and I have even had girls ask for a much smaller amount than what was discussed beforehand (two girls in particular even refused to take a tip afterwards which leads me to think it is not all acting sometimes).
I also have seen girls use part of the tip to extend the time by offsetting the room fees & 1 girl who once told me I could pay a small tip if I agreed to come back the next week.

That's why I have an issue with the many replies that want to set in stone a 20 40 60 80 100 120 scale.
 
Now now TP, I think that's not the right mentality for the MP. If you're giving great service, it doesn't matter who else the customer sees. Clients may wonder somewhere else to look for a better session but if the MP gave him an awesome session, most likely he will come back. Nobody stays with one MP and MPs should know that.
 
As a hobbyist, I agree wholeheartedly.

That "mentality" was explained to me by none other than Emily herself. Some guys see every girl in a spa. Some guys will only see one girl, time after time. Who do you think got the better treatment?

Perhaps the distinction is that if an MPA's reportoire includes high mileage as "great service", she's not going to hold back. That's not what I'm saying. My understanding/proposition is that an MPA may not go over and above her normal reportoire if she knows that she isn't special to you.
 
So for a Body Slide.....say $50 room fee....and $100 for the slide...

What r u guys tipping?
 
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    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธMilly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  50. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
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