Chat Toronto Girlfriends asking for ID now?

They deleted most of posts there so I'll just repeat myself here. This isn't the first time they stole the deposit from a member there. One guy asked to book for HH, they took his deposit, then said all the girls have a 1h minimum. Another guy booked using a fake name (like many clients), sent the deposit which had his real name, they took the deposit, then blocked him because of the mismatch, which they would have known about before accepting the transfer. They're scumbags.
 
Indies are cheaper and no ID? I guess it depends on which ones - especially if weโ€™re taking out the LL scams. The ones that did not ask for ID (one was just a text thank god and the other was just a phone call first) charged the same prices more or less as agencies. The other indies I see on that board can range from the same price to higher AND have even MORE invasive checks. The email to work was from an indie - Iโ€™ve also seen selfie, government ID, EMT, references from 1-2 indie providers in the last 6 months.

Which hidden gem indies you hiding from us, xtc? ๐Ÿ˜
Cmon man, no secretsโ€ฆ
:lol

Sweet Alice, Catherine Tog, Asian Nicole, Daisy,Yukino, East York Melissaโ€ฆ etcโ€ฆ

Dozens moreโ€ฆ
 
Cmon man, no secretsโ€ฆ
:lol

Sweet Alice, Catherine Tog, Asian Nicole, Daisy,Yukino, East York Melissaโ€ฆ etcโ€ฆ

Dozens moreโ€ฆ
Seen two of these relatively recently. Theyโ€™re standard rates except for Melissa, I believe who is less? Iโ€™ll just say if you want to avoid ID and EMT theyโ€™re fine but NMCOT.
 
guy from tgf is a complete clown confirmedโ€ฆ.imagine if I didnโ€™t put a password on the deposit lol. Dude played himself by telling me no when I asked him to return the money. Instead he decided to damage the reputation of his agency for 70$ which he couldnโ€™t even get in the end LOL

imagine being that money hungry and scummy
 
1. The red board is a business. If Iโ€™m not mistaken they generate at least 6 figures annually . If anyone did something to possibly hurt your income youโ€™d fight back too.

2. The red board isnโ€™t quite a shillโ€ฆ. but you do have to take reviews with a grain of salt.

3. Yes a paying advertiser can have a NR policy or get reviews removed.

4. God damn it. Never send an EFT deposit to anyone in this industry just donโ€™t do it. One itโ€™s connected to your personal email and bank account. Two there are ZERO purchase protections. Once they have the money itโ€™s theirs and they do not have to ever delivery.

5. Never ever, ever. LISTEN to me never!!! send copies of your iD to anyone in this industry. The short term gain (sex) is not worth the long term potential risk to you identify.

Number 5 is pretty much the reason Iโ€™m out of the SP scene.
 
Seen two of these relatively recently. Theyโ€™re standard rates except for Melissa, I believe who is less? Iโ€™ll just say if you want to avoid ID and EMT theyโ€™re fine but NMCOT.
Lotsa indies out thereโ€ฆ these = famous onesโ€ฆ also SA & CT allot less $$$โ€ฆ

Anyway, TGF = main culprit โ€ฆ other agencies arenโ€™t doing this :no
 
There's non-invasive screening and deposit methods that SPs are adopting but it's a dice roll. Would be nice to have something like cashapp here to help with that...short of the legalization model in NZ/Oz with legal brothels.
 
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!
 
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!
โ€ฆ since they have no access 2 offenders lists, totally doubt any prescreening happeningโ€ฆ anyway, a dude threatening a girl gonna b visible on hotel & condo camerasโ€ฆ as that cop ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ in Barrie found outโ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u allow TGF 2 have yer IDโ€ฆ well, the L word comes 2 mindโ€ฆ:iceโ€ฆ excep ofc Iโ€™ve listened 2 the lil head 2 & done stupid stuffโ€ฆ

When my bank or dentist wants my ID:
  1. I know why
  2. I benefit
โ€ฆ but an agency? Fuckoff. We can conduct a gd biz deal without sharing that detailโ€ฆ

U no what TGF could do if u posted a bad reviewโ€ฆ? They could OUT u. o_O
 
โ€œโ€ฆ fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)โ€ฆโ€!
โ€ฆ trying 2 find a puppyโ€ฆ sounds gd! Gonna use that oneโ€ฆ

Accountant: โ€œHey? Whatโ€™s this on the VISA, Barbiehouse69?โ€

โ€œOh, I was trying 2 buy a puppy on Kijijiโ€ ๐Ÿถ
โ€œ Can I write that off as biz expense?โ€โ€™

โ€œGuard dog, sureโ€ฆโ€. :lol
 
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Need for ID aside, they really should have asked for that BEFORE the deposit. At the same time, anyone asking me for a non-refundable deposit will see my back really fast. I fell for that once on Kijiji and never again. (wasn't hobby related...was trying to find a puppy in all the wrong places)

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!
live and learn man....I just want to raise awareness so ppl can learn from my mistakes
 
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

Yep; I don't buy for a second that this is about the safety of his workers.
 
LOL... Red board is a joke. I got banned so many times for small things. I got banned for posting I got FS at a massage parlor. I got banned for attacking nasty agency owners like Steve of TO agency and TGF. I got banned for revealing how dirty Japanese Emily of a well known agency was.
Holy fuck ! Red board spy Frank Underwood is stalking me now. ..lol
 
TGF has always had sketchy business practices. I remember SPs used to tell me how the owner demanded free sex as part of the "interview" and anytime he wanted for himself and his friends.

As for red board, congrats on getting banned. What a waste of space!
One girl even told me he asked her to set me up at a place he can record me. He tried that on Stud Lonigan too.
So funny some idiots followed me from red board and telling here I got banned so many times in red board as if it was a shameful thing to get banned there..lol
 
Locking the thread and banning me will not stop me. I will get this message out about scummy business practices from TGF no matter what. Must protect my brothers

You clearly come across on all your posts as an immature bumbling idiot, and I doubt that you can tie your shoes while standing on one foot and talking simultaneously, how are you going to start acting like one of the Avengers of the sex industry now?

You messaged me crying to call Tom for you to get your money back, like I'm your daddy online. Meanwhile they never accepted your money and you were too dumb to realize that. There is a reason why no other client has been asked for ID, not soulsweeper7, not first man, and not me. That is probably because we don't come across as sketchy idiots online. You know @jaimie wolf and I discussed this, he also wasn't asked for an ID either. Why you?

God, you and tom only know what exactly transpired during your interaction there and what you did to push the situation to that point. I don't care to find out, but I have never seen Tom pissed off in my entire time I have been using his service, you somehow managed to really piss him off.
 
They deleted most of posts there so I'll just repeat myself here. This isn't the first time they stole the deposit from a member there. One guy asked to book for HH, they took his deposit, then said all the girls have a 1h minimum. Another guy booked using a fake name (like many clients), sent the deposit which had his real name, they took the deposit, then blocked him because of the mismatch, which they would have known about before accepting the transfer. They're scumbags.

I approached you with the utmost respect on the thread in the red board because I am aware of your massive contributions within this community, I have personally benefitted from some of your advice navigating the massage parlor scene, Thank you for that. You accused me of downplaying the agencies role to make @BIGCORN seem like the culprit not the victim, but if I was downplaying the agency's part, don't you think what you are doing is the opposite by twisting the facts of these two scenarios you have listed?

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Firstly, @soulsweeper_7 never said he was ripped off of his deposit. If I am reading his post correctly, he completed the screening process and saw someone successfully (for an unknown duration of time on a different day than the day he posted this) and on the next time he tried to book he was informed that most/all the girls are one hour minimum. He did not say this happened on the same day, you are fabricating that story. You can also ask him directly to clarify.

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The second anecdote you share, @First man started off by claiming he had used his middle name to book, but later revealed it was a fake name or an alias. In other words he lied on his post here, because he admitted it was an alias and not his real legal name. The agency caught that, and they decided they did not want to take a chance. Whatever criteria they use, is unknown to me but I am piecing things together based on the evidence I see. I am a stickler for rules, and I have my own self imposed code of ethics, the way I see it, he tried to circumvent the screening process by using a fake name possibly on the phone and his EMT, we have no way of knowing that; so his deposit was forfeited.

We can agree or not, but I wouldn't call this a clear case of the agency ripping anybody off on purpose. This is not me downplaying anything but simply stating that things are not as black and white as you are putting it and without all the facts it's probably best not to cast judgement without having all the facts. In my own personal experiences I have never had any issues with the EMT system in place at TGF.
 
these ladies are vulnerable
how else are they to feel protected?
i applaud the agency for taking important methods to create a safer workplace
other agencies don't give a shit

it adds a good layer of protection
if a dude is violent, he will be deterred
if a dude is a robber, he can be tracked down

bad guys thrive on anonymity and the social stigma on sex workers
take away the secrecy and they run like roaches

Glad to see there are other men like me who feel that girls have the right to be protected. On the night that @BIGCORN's thread was locked and doctored to look how it does now, I had a conversation with a guy via private message. In this message this poster claimed that putting in policies like screening are unnecessary because all agencies employ ex-military bodyguards to safekeep the girls. He upholds that he has seen this with his own eyes, as one time he walked out of an appointment he saw a muscular guy across the hall entering into a unit nearby.

How ridiculous is this? I think within this community, the vulnerability of the women participating in sex work should be even more obvious. I have yet to walk into a massage parlor with a bouncer or bodyguard. What I have seen in every place I have visited: Perla, Pure, Flirt, QQ Spa, VIP, Seductions, and Vaguhan spa, is a lonely hot receptionist sitting by herself in the lobby of the spa.

The spa has cameras and that deters some evil doers, but how often do spas get robbed? Can one of you experts have a discussion about this without trolling?

ironically the people who scream at the invasion of privacy or risk to their identity by sending an EMT don't see cameras as a problem. I see it as more damaging to have someone post or send pictures of me to blackmail me than a random alpha numeric line on my bank statement.
 
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    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  31. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: HANA, MIA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž HANA is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. LUNA is slim
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธTania๐ŸŒธBella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Cici Cute Skinny Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  38. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Suki work
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Sexy girl Mia big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  40. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683/905.886.9993 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Young Lovely Lori, Baby Selina, Elegant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ELLA**
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Sunny natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy come back,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience.๐Ÿ˜new very beautiful long hair lily,slimy body,amazing touch, back walk,hot stone,popular friendly girl,must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  42. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday April 3, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Sophie โ˜€ and Monica ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at (905) 479-6668 to book!
  43. yoko:
    sister spa
  44. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธMya๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  45. Golden Flower Spa:
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  48. Joseph123456:
    Just relax review
  49. Alibi Massage and Spa:
    Unwind in ALIBI ๐Ÿฅ€ this WEDNESDAY: Jasmine, Kay, Jade, Sandy ๐Ÿ“ž905 212 1222๐Ÿ“1380 Matheson Blvd East, Mississauga
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    For Wednesday April 2, 2025, our attendants are Sandy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Carla โฃ. Call us at (905) 479-6668 to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham, ON, Canada!
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