Chat Toronto Girlfriends asking for ID now?

[BIGCORN]

lol frank...how far you have fallen...before you reported the thread and put Tom's cock deep down your throat, most people were shitting on TGF as being scummy and having shady business practices. Guess you're lucky that the red board decided to censor all of us and delete our posts calling TGF and Tom out. Now that those posts are all deleted you can say anything you want. But I guess the people that read the threads know that TGF is a horrible agency and that you're the number one shill for them. Welcome to massage planet bro, no censorship and you can see that most people agree with me and most have also had bad experiences with TGF. Maybe you can make a new account under a different alias to shill them over here though

 

[BIGCORN]

You clearly come across on all your posts as an immature bumbling idiot, and I doubt that you can tie your shoes while standing on one foot and talking simultaneously, how are you going to start acting like one of the Avengers of the sex industry now?

You messaged me crying to call Tom for you to get your money back, like I'm your daddy online. Meanwhile they never accepted your money and you were too dumb to realize that. There is a reason why no other client has been asked for ID, not soulsweeper7, not first man, and not me. That is probably because we don't come across as sketchy idiots online. You know @jaimie wolf and I discussed this, he also wasn't asked for an ID either. Why you?

God, you and tom only know what exactly transpired during your interaction there and what you did to push the situation to that point. I don't care to find out, but I have never seen Tom pissed off in my entire time I have been using his service, you somehow managed to really piss him off.

lol Tom has a lot of nerve to be "pissed off". Considering he's the one that REFUSED to give my money back when he's the one that originally thought that the auto deposit went through. $70 fucking bucks....dude really tried to scam me for $70 bucks. And now he's crying cause everyone else also had bad experiences with TGF and I started a thread that blew up in his face? Even sending out his minion to talk shit?

Frank, I know you're in bed with Tom but try to take his cock out of your mouth for a second....imagine you give some dude an etransfer and he asks you for ID after. You don't want to do it so he keeps your etransfer. Is it that hard to refund it? Like am I the only one seeing the problem here? LOL

 

[Frank Underwood]

lol frank...how far you have fallen...before you reported the thread and put Tom's cock deep down your throat, most people were shitting on TGF as being scummy and having shady business practices. Guess you're lucky that the red board decided to censor all of us and delete our posts calling TGF and Tom out. Now that those posts are all deleted you can say anything you want. But I guess the people that read the threads know that TGF is a horrible agency and that you're the number one shill for them. Welcome to massage planet bro, no censorship and you can see that most people agree with me and most have also had bad experiences with TGF. Maybe you can make a new account under a different alias to shill them over here though

My public record is visible to anyone that has the brain to look into my profile. I have written over 50 reviews within the past year, out of those 50 only 4 or 5 have been of TGF girls. How can I be a shill for the agency that I talk the least about? If anything I would say I am a shill for Barbie House, but you are a dumb fuck that just talks out of his ass, so how could you know how to count?

I do have certain topics that I gravitate towards, one of them is the screening of potentially bad clients and the security of the girls. I am equally interested in ending racism, massage parlors, fair wages for sex workers, and good Asian pussy. I would come to defend any agency that stands for any of those things, and it so happens that TGF along with Barbie House, Allegra, HPL, and others are adopting what I deem as progressive policies towards increased safety of the girls by implementing screening mechanisms.

Let me dumb it down for you, so you can assimilate my words:

If I am a shill prove it, with evidence or shut the fuck up. The way I see it, I have spent well over $12,500 (that can be easily calculated at 50x250) this past year in measurable contributions to the community. Find one fake review in my record and call me out on it, otherwise please brother shut your dumb ass mouth.

lol Tom has a lot of nerve to be "pissed off". Considering he's the one that REFUSED to give my money back when he's the one that originally thought that the auto deposit went through. $70 fucking bucks....dude really tried to scam me for $70 bucks. And now he's crying cause everyone else also had bad experiences with TGF and I started a thread that blew up in his face? Even sending out his minion to talk shit?

Frank, I know you're in bed with Tom but try to take his cock out of your mouth for a second....imagine you give some dude an etransfer and he asks you for ID after. You don't want to do it so he keeps your etransfer. Is it that hard to refund it? Like am I the only one seeing the problem here? LOL

Once again, you are jittering all over the place because in the same thread you have taken credit for outsmarting TGF by putting a password, but you have also admitted that it was an accident and you got lucky. It doesn't matter. What matters is WHY? Why are you the only idiot who got asked for an ID?

What are the circumstances that led to Tom Asking you for an ID?

And let's get one thing straight, you were not refunded money, the money was never taken. Don't try to appeal to me anymore dude, you are not my child anymore. When you decided to come talk shit about me behind my back like a little bitch you lost all my respect. Messaging me crying to come and get your money back for you, you are a real pussy.

 

[imthedude]

Imagine deluding yourself into thinking the height of male allyship is to go to bat for an agency owner on a review board.

 

[xtc27]

Imagine deluding yourself into thinking the height of male allyship is to go to bat for an agency owner on a review board.

Dude using homosexual pedophile as his avatar… uh huh…

… @BIGCORN contributes credible reviews here… so I tended 2 think whole thing = likely true right away… then others chimed in, obv allotta smoke, likely a fire…

Then this creepy dude types paragraphs of stuff attacking BC… & u can read in his denials that its all true!

… & he talks about safety of girls on & on… lets see… youve got an actual EMT… u think cops could do somethng w that? … uh, yeah…so at least allow us a bit of anonymity … u want actual legal names? Funny how girls dont provide that… think mebbe theres a stigma?

 

[BIGCORN]

My public record is visible to anyone that has the brain to look into my profile. I have written over 50 reviews within the past year, out of those 50 only 4 or 5 have been of TGF girls. How can I be a shill for the agency that I talk the least about? If anything I would say I am a shill for Barbie House, but you are a dumb fuck that just talks out of his ass, so how could you know how to count?

I do have certain topics that I gravitate towards, one of them is the screening of potentially bad clients and the security of the girls. I am equally interested in ending racism, massage parlors, fair wages for sex workers, and good Asian pussy. I would come to defend any agency that stands for any of those things, and it so happens that TGF along with Barbie House, Allegra, HPL, and others are adopting what I deem as progressive policies towards increased safety of the girls by implementing screening mechanisms.

Let me dumb it down for you, so you can assimilate my words:

If I am a shill prove it, with evidence or shut the fuck up. The way I see it, I have spent well over $12,500 (that can be easily calculated at 50x250) this past year in measurable contributions to the community. Find one fake review in my record and call me out on it, otherwise please brother shut your dumb ass mouth.



Once again, you are jittering all over the place because in the same thread you have taken credit for outsmarting TGF by putting a password, but you have also admitted that it was an accident and you got lucky. It doesn't matter. What matters is WHY? Why are you the only idiot who got asked for an ID?

What are the circumstances that led to Tom Asking you for an ID?

And let's get one thing straight, you were not refunded money, the money was never taken. Don't try to appeal to me anymore dude, you are not my child anymore. When you decided to come talk shit about me behind my back like a little bitch you lost all my respect. Messaging me crying to come and get your money back for you, you are a real pussy.

Oh nooooo don't get me started on your BH reviews where you think they're your "wives". At best, you're a delusional shizo that has 1 dude on here that agrees with you. You're clearly a shill for TGF not by the number of reviews you write for them but for how you literally had to find me on ANOTHER forum after reporting me on the red board (with many others that agreed with me) to talk shit about me and defend TGF. Not much needs to be said about that. Think about how your actions are seen to impartial people around here.

Not sure how spending $12,500 on prostitutes proves any point that you're trying to make but OK. I never said that your reviews did not contribute to the community, nor did I say that they are fake. I'm sure that the TGF girls are great...I'm just saying that the keeper (TOM) is a scummy dude that does scummy business practices. If some dude out there wants to send over an etransfer and ID then more power to them, they can enjoy a TGF girl. All I'm saying is that if they don't want to send a NONREFUNDABLE etransfer and a pic holding up their ID then they should probably avoid trying to book wtih TGF. Why is that setting you off so much?

Honestly I used to respect you as well Frank, but the way you side with an agency like that has also made me lose all respect for you, so I guess the feeling is mutual. You're the fakest brother/wolf I've ever seen....a guy that would continue to lie and promote a shitty agency while literally everyone else is saying that TGF is bad as well. On another note, please stop calling yourself my dad--it's creepy (but I guess that's why your profile pic is of Kevin Spacey) and you're old enough to be my grandfather LOL

 

[MalikFarush]

Spending $12,500 on hookers makes one a colossal idiot. Frank’s reviews on the Asian board are full of lies too.

 

[Flatulent Fox]

I approached you with the utmost respect on the thread in the red board because I am aware of your massive contributions within this community, I have personally benefitted from some of your advice navigating the massage parlor scene, Thank you for that. You accused me of downplaying the agencies role to make @BIGCORN seem like the culprit not the victim, but if I was downplaying the agency's part, don't you think what you are doing is the opposite by twisting the facts of these two scenarios you have listed?

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Firstly, @soulsweeper_7 never said he was ripped off of his deposit. If I am reading his post correctly, he completed the screening process and saw someone successfully (for an unknown duration of time on a different day than the day he posted this) and on the next time he tried to book he was informed that most/all the girls are one hour minimum. He did not say this happened on the same day, you are fabricating that story. You can also ask him directly to clarify.

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The second anecdote you share, @First man started off by claiming he had used his middle name to book, but later revealed it was a fake name or an alias. In other words he lied on his post here, because he admitted it was an alias and not his real legal name. The agency caught that, and they decided they did not want to take a chance. Whatever criteria they use, is unknown to me but I am piecing things together based on the evidence I see. I am a stickler for rules, and I have my own self imposed code of ethics, the way I see it, he tried to circumvent the screening process by using a fake name possibly on the phone and his EMT, we have no way of knowing that; so his deposit was forfeited.

We can agree or not, but I wouldn't call this a clear case of the agency ripping anybody off on purpose. This is not me downplaying anything but simply stating that things are not as black and white as you are putting it and without all the facts it's probably best not to cast judgement without having all the facts. In my own personal experiences I have never had any issues with the EMT system in place at TGF.

It's true that none of us really knows what happened other than those users and TGF, I'm just going by what they have publicly posted. soulsweeper_7 never indicated that he used them after sending the deposit, and he jumped on you on another thread for shilling for TGF, so I think it's safe to assume he didn't get his deposit back or book with them afterward. First Man said he booked using his middle name, then on the other thread he said he used an alias, which could easily mean his middle name. I didn't get the impression he was knowingly trying to bypass the screening process. Likely he just texted to book and gave them a fake name as many others do. He said he called to explain the situation but they wouldn't budge.

In any case TGF could have cleared all this up by either clarifying things *before* accepting the deposits, returning the deposits as a good faith gesture if there truly was a misunderstanding, or explaining their side of the story on TERB. They did none of those things, instead they went crying to mommy to lock the threads and delete the critical posts. Anyway I've already spent far more time on this than I care to.

 

[JaimeWolf]

Spending $12,500 on hookers makes one a colossal idiot. Frank’s reviews on the Asian board are full of lies too.

Many guys on this board spend a lot more than $12.5k a year, myself included. There's no award for being frugal in this hobby. What else are you going to do, give all your money to your pimp (aka wife)?

 

[imthedude]

There's no correlation between a hobbying budget and credibility.

 

[xtc27]

Many guys on this board spend a lot more than $12.5k a year, myself included. There's no award for being frugal in this hobby. What else are you going to do, give all your money to your pimp (aka wife)?

… how much do Frenchmen spend on their mistress? Betcha they dont total it up… other hobbies, like baseball , hockey , football , even bowling … not cheap…

This hobby= way more fun…. Balls= smaller & easy 2 carry, dont hafta wear funny shoes… … always happy @ end… my team always advances 2 nxt round…

 

[Deleted member 92532]

… how much do Frenchmen spend on their mistress? Betcha they dont total it up… other hobbies, like baseball , hockey , football , even bowling … not cheap…

This hobby= way more fun…. Balls= smaller & easy 2 carry, dont hafta wear funny shoes… … always happy @ end… my team always advances 2 nxt round…

 

[Deleted member 64273]

… trying 2 find a puppy… sounds gd! Gonna use that one…

Accountant: “Hey? What’s this on the VISA, Barbiehouse69?”

“Oh, I was trying 2 buy a puppy on Kijiji”
“ Can I write that off as biz expense?”’

“Guard dog, sure…”.

TBH, it was a tough time for my family....we'd just had to put down our dog and we were all hurting, so I was easy prey. Was looking at Golden Retrievers and someone posted on kijiji as having GR puppies and wanted a 85 non refundable deposit to make a visit and reserve one. When we got to the place, we learned it was all a scam. Happy ending in that we ended up adopting a rescue.

 

[Frank Underwood]

It's true that none of us really knows what happened other than those users and TGF, I'm just going by what they have publicly posted. soulsweeper_7 never indicated that he used them after sending the deposit

I just don't like when people are spreading false information. I doubt that you will be persuaded of your opinions, but the record shows that soulsweeper used TGF after he sent the EMT. This will be my last post about TGF, because I want to address the bigger issue at hand about safety for the girls and the way some of the misogynists here are trying to argue their right for anonymity.

Here is the first post from Soul regarding TGF when he saw Sofia.



Here he is several months later complaining about having to send an EMT



Here he is two months later reviewing Amber. So I must assume he sent the EMT to book again.



Just in case you missed it, here he is talking about his experience with Amber again.



Here he is stating that he regrets sending an EMT because suddenly all the girls are one hour minimum. Look at the dates, this post was more than two weeks after his review of Amber.



Here he is again confirming he booked and feels regret that he sent the EMT because he is a 45 minute guy but most of the girls have a one hour minimum.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Dude using homosexual pedophile as his avatar… uh huh…

… @BIGCORN contributes credible reviews here… so I tended 2 think whole thing = likely true right away… then others chimed in, obv allotta smoke, likely a fire…

Then this creepy dude types paragraphs of stuff attacking BC… & u can read in his denials that its all true!

… & he talks about safety of girls on & on… lets see… youve got an actual EMT… u think cops could do somethng w that? … uh, yeah…so at least allow us a bit of anonymity … u want actual legal names? Funny how girls dont provide that… think mebbe theres a stigma?

Are you really comparing yourself to a 90 lbs female when you are asking to be afforded the same considerations for safety in a hooker/john transaction? If you are a 90 lbs boy then you should feel scared to book big bad escorts that could potentially be up to 40% larger than you, I think you are absolutely right to demand equality under those terms. What kind of man are you?

 

[Frank Underwood]

Many guys on this board spend a lot more than $12.5k a year, myself included. There's no award for being frugal in this hobby. What else are you going to do, give all your money to your pimp (aka wife)?

My dear friend, I used the figure of 12.5k to quantify the worth of my contributions in the industry and community. After all, it is easy to read one of my reviews and see an escort then you can decide if my review is true or not. In actuality, that is probably 1/5 of what I have spent, but you have to realize that most of the other people here are probably not even hobbyists and just troll online unlike you and me. I don't expect them to get it, but if the real people that matter get it, that is good enough for me. I hope we can influence other newer members of the community to not follow in the misogynists' footsteps of some of the outspoken members of the online escort community because not every client wants to treat escorts like shit.

Note, not one of the Einsteins in this thread has actually addressed my post about safety at massage parlors, and we are on a website about massage parlors.

 

[imthedude]

No one's responded because no one disagrees that sex workers are entitled to safety. What's in dispute is whether a particular actor is concerned about that or is leveraging that anxiety for their own ends. Given his reputation among the workers you're apparently deeply concerned for, it's a valid concern.

 

[bbutter]

I don’t know anyone in this thread, but I pretty much agree it’s douchey to take someone’s money (non refundable) then add conditions. You’re locking the individual in , and now that person is in a vulnerable spot.

That’s like putting a deposit with a contractor and then he decides that it’ll cost you 2x more than quoted and he needs to paid in gold.

 

[xtc27]

Are you really comparing yourself to a 90 lbs female when you are asking to be afforded the same considerations for safety in a hooker/john transaction? If you are a 90 lbs boy then you should feel scared to book big bad escorts that could potentially be up to 40% larger than you, I think you are absolutely right to demand equality under those terms. What kind of man are you?

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Nice pic… u & yer mom?

Guess that’s why u use homo pedophile as yer avatar…. Tough childhood! Did u choose Underwood bcuz yer Wood = Undersized?


Askng for real ID after u took deposit= asshole move … then trying 2 steal the deposit… huh, I guess it’s 2 much 2 expec honour from pimps…

Can’t believe yer still here trying 2 intimidate…

U have reinforced what we already figured out… Toronto Girl Friends= worst agency in Toronto… customer service policy= “customer is always an asshole & better knuckle under” … no fuckng way I’d trust u clowns with my real name

Go back 2 terb, lil Frankie, where mods freeze accounts & ban users on the whims of pimps…

 

[bbutter]

So if it’s true. Yea TGF Is garbage regardless of the reason.

plus if TGF didn’t get the money.. just tell him
“We didn’t receive the funds”, you saying “oh it’s your responsibility to know the transfer didn’t go through“... doesn’t absolve from the fact that you knowingly tried to take his money. (Which is stupid AF, everyone knows you want repeat customers not trying to scam to find new customers)