Underage?

I believe you're referring to the Mexican Corruption of Minors statute. It makes having sex with a chaste girl under 18 a felony. A minor is not chaste if she has had a child, worked as a stripper, or worked as a prostitute. It also exempts men who have an "honorable relationship" with a minor. (Meaning they are married to a minor or--with parental consent--are formally engaged to a minor.) Being chaste is not the same as being a virgin; a minor is still considered chaste if she's had sex with her boyfriend or lots of boyfriends. (It's being a mother or working in the sex industry that make a minor unchaste.)

Note well that the exemptions to the Corruption of Minors statue will NOT stop the cops from arresting you. According to one of my Mexican attorneys the cops in TJ regularly arrest both locals and Gringos for having sex with a minor.

If arrested you then fight the case from inside the jail. (Unless you can post something like $20,000.00 for bail.) Expect the attorney to want $10,000.00 or more to handle your case. Expect it to take 1 to 2 years to get your case heard. You're also likely to find it difficult to locate witnesses that can prove the minor isn't chaste (e.g. a stripper or prostitute). Also, expect the judge to believe the cops, not you and your witnesses.

In short, not only is having sex with a wrong, it's also stupid as it puts you in harms way. Don't do it. And pray you never do it unknowingly (because your hooker looks like she's 18) and/or you are falsely accused.

(For what it's is worth: In California one-fourth of divorces contain an accusation of spousal abuse or child molestation. Of course, most of these accusations are false, but divorce attorneys love them as usually the man will give a soon to be ex-wife whatever she wants to avoid prosecution. Sadly, more than one innocent man who refused to roll over and play dead has ended up in prison.)
 
So they use "vos", depending on the part of of the country you lay foot at.
Depending on the person, city, social level... it's a flip of a coin.

But they use it.
Specially at Argentina.

Yes you are right and wrong at the same time, depending where you are, they use "vos" incorrectly as the second person plural, but as a spoken barbarism, as a contraction of "vosotros".




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Is that the corner across from La Gloria that Fireballs was talking about? I usually cross the street to pass by them to avoid Gloria's pushy barkers.
 
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I must admit that in Colombia everyone uses "tu". In Antioquia (Medellin, Manizales, Pereira etc) they use vos but they don't care if you tutear.
 
I think you are wrong on your "Latin American" that is the congugation for Vosotros which is only used in Spain for second person plural informal, "you guys". If you go to most Latin American countries they will you use tu. A few will use vos.
QUOTE=Amigomio;771774]There is one thing... in Argentina they don't speak Spanish, they speak Argentinian.
Sounds stupid but they have their own way of expresing themselves and it is not the Spanish we speak in Mexico, nor the Spanish they speak in Chile or Uruguay and Paraguay.

For example: "What do you think"
Mexican Spanish would go like this: Que piensas tu.
Latinamerican Spanish: Que pensais vos.
In Argentina: Que pensู„s vos.
The way Argentinians express themselves go against any known grammer rule.

But back to "vos" and "tu".
Mexico is the only Latinamerican country that uses the second person form of "tu". Everyone else Mexico south of us use the "vos" as second person singular and "vosotros" as second person plural, instead of "ustedes" the form used in Mexico.

But the "usted" form used in Mexico... there are tons of girls, working girls that use it.
There is no week gone past that a ho will refer to me as "usted" and I will have a hell of a time telling them "dime de tu".
It is a manner of distancing themselves from familiarity with a customer.[/QUOTE]
 
Thanks, NOB. Thanks, AmigoMio. I appreciate the help. It seems Spanish is just as bastardized as English. For the life of me, I can not understand people from Jamaica or Scotland. But it is the same language.

I was just in la Zona and when flirting with the chicas, I was still using "usted" and I think it actually works better for me. I then ask if I can use "tu" and they always say, "si". Hey, they know my Spanish is horrible. But I think and I hope they appreciate that I am trying to speak their language.
 
There is one thing... in Argentina they don't speak Spanish, they speak Argentinian.
Sounds stupid but they have their own way of expresing themselves and it is not the Spanish we speak in Mexico, nor the Spanish they speak in Chile or Uruguay and Paraguay.

For example: "What do you think"
Mexican Spanish would go like this: Que piensas tu.
Latinamerican Spanish: Que pensais vos.
In Argentina: Que pensู„s vos.
The way Argentinians express themselves go against any known grammer rule.

But back to "vos" and "tu".
Mexico is the only Latinamerican country that uses the second person form of "tu". Everyone else Mexico south of us use the "vos" as second person singular and "vosotros" as second person plural, instead of "ustedes" the form used in Mexico.

But the "usted" form used in Mexico... there are tons of girls, working girls that use it.
There is no week gone past that a ho will refer to me as "usted" and I will have a hell of a time telling them "dime de tu".
It is a manner of distancing themselves from familiarity with a customer.
 
I haven't lived in Argentina for the last 18 months now and I wouldn't say they`re formal at all, Argentinians don't use the "tu" form though, instead they use "vos" which is also informal.
The only persons I used the "usted" form was both my mother and father in law but everyone else, I addressed in the "vos" form, the Argentinian equivalent of "tu"
 
Thanks, NOB. I have to change my mannerisms in this respect. I always start out with "usted" and then ask if I can use "tu." But you are right. They usually look at me a bit funny. (But that is from much more than just my horrible Spanish.)

However, I am generally more formal in all my interactions with individuals than the average person. I have had folks from South America say that the Mexicans are far too informal. I guess I would be more at home in South America. But don't you, NOB, live in Argentina? Do you find it more formal than Mexico?

Again, thank you very much for the advice. I won't be so formal with the chicas in the future.
 
Never use the formal "usted" "su" etc when addressing a puta, you never speak to a working girl in the formal "usted" form, ever.

When you are about to fuck a girl or negotiating for sex, it sounds quite silly addressing her in the formal "usted" form. I'm aware you are just trying to show respect but you will probably be laughed at behind your back.

"Puedo ver tu tarjeta de salud por favor?" would be the right way to ask for a health card.
 
"dar me" should be "da me" (informal command) or "de me" (formal command).

"da me" o "de me" is a bit strong, even though you used "Por favor."

I would say, "Quisiera (Key-see-era) ver su tarjeta de salud, por favor."

It means, "I would like to see your health card, please."

Or "Puedo ver su tarjeta de salud, por favor?" (The "e" makes the sound of a long a in Spanish in puedo - "Pooh-aaa-do")

This means, "May I see your health card, please?"
 
LOL....I have no skill in that area. A doctor made that call and I was waiting outside the room when he was doing his check.

I am sure those chicas do have a health card, but I cannot swear they are of age.
 
Yeah that's exactly the area I'm talking about except you give a better description.

It feels kinda strange walking by that area where the girls look even younger because they are wearing the school uniforms. Some of those girls seem pretty aggressive others seem like they rather be elsewhere almost frightened and you know they wouldn't be good if you take them to the hotel.( besides them looking young...something is not right with those girls. They don't act normal)

I got that padrote feel to those SGs too because it's like they all belong to the same group. If true that padrote is probably making making pretty good money.

Of course if we say that you should stay away from this area or use extreme caution and ask for health cards. We pretty much know many will go seeking this area out.

I myself going to seek Sampson out so he could teach me how to tell a girls age by looking at her teeth? So what are they looking for "wisdom teeth?"
 
How do you say "health card" in espanol?
Por favor, dar me su tarjeta de salud?
 
The Health card looks about like a credit card, and it has her picture. There are no health cards issued that say she is underage. Many of the chicas start before 18, but they get the card in another name other than their own. If she has one, then you are not responsible in Mexico.

If you are concerned about underage, then I would not patronize the girls on the North East corner of Coahuila and Constitution. These are the group that dress like street girls. I don't know any of them or their ages, however they act like 14 year olds all dressed up. I believe they are all with the same man, as I have seen them pass the phone around to talk to someone.
 
BTW. I realy don't know what they look like so thanks in advance for the info. I guess if I am going to spend time down in TJ, I really should be educated.
 
If they look very young I would ask to see their "health card" because even if he were fake. You could make a pretty good case that you verified her age as she has an official document that she was over 18. Besides if she has a health card that's the only ID they would probably check.

The SGs that scare me work on Constitution across from La Gloria north of the alley. Lot of those girls look young, and many of them are wearing that school uniform.

I'm pretty sure they work for a padrote because the girls dress the same, act the same, and seem to have the same sales pitch.
 
You are absativaly right. If you can't tell they are at least in their 20's, I say pass, but agains lets play devils advocate. I am from Cali, If someone showed me Florida ID or a Mexican ID I couldn't tell if it was real or fake. Any young girl not of age can get some ID from her friend/relative and can you say you can tell the diff? I can honestly say I could NOT. So ask all you want. I still go by looks and if they seem to young for fun, I say pass.
 
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  37. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Cici works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
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  39. Nu spring spa888:
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  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE is a young slim Vietnamese girl with a beauty face, C Cup, 5'2" & 100 Lbs, student and model looks, vg at fs multiple positions, bbbj ymmv must be clean and respectful. LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a slim Chinese lady with a nice bust and narrow waist. Great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  45. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage,back walk, very friendly,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  46. Moneylee:
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  47. Moneylee:
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  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young cute sophia 30โ€™s slime, fun Vicky with curve body 25โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. romiogames0:
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  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: HANNA, JENNY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. HANA is a slim, sexy & very liberal Mexican lady with incredible services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
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