When a hobby suddenly becomes an Addiction

Hey Bruce,

I'm sure as from the posts you can see there are many people who have been addicted to this hobby and each have their own solutions. What's going to work for you is tough to say as each person is different.

I think you have to figure out why you go, what it is that you enjoy about going, and are there other ways to achieve the same goals.

As to what constitutes an addiction as posed by another poster.... I believe it's when the hobby starts to consume most of your "spendable" cash.

As for your past attempts being in vain..... I wouldn't look at it that way. Who quits an addiction on the first shot? Most people don't. If you are willing to try and quit again and possibly have to try a few more times so be it.

In my own case it took a few attempts but I'll tell ya while on vacation I found myself passing by old haunts and places where I knew I could hobby and I was brought to the point of shaking (part of me wanted to go so badly)..... I'm happy to say that I didn't give into the tempation.

One more thing I think moderation could be a better first step.
 
Hey Bruce,
If you are for real then the 1st thing is this. If you are taking cash advances on your credit cards every month to pay for things including hobbying then stop immediately. Stop cold turkey, don't surf the net for info on the hobby, don't call places for the schedules of your fav MPA's. If you must take care of business use porn. The urge will be there but it will slowly go away.

If you can afford your hobbying and want to continue but get it under control, then change your habbits. If you regularly see the same girl, start seeing other girls and don't see your fav MPA 'till next year. If you regularly see different MPAs then get a regular girl and see her once every month or two whatever you feel is acceptable.

I personally have been in a bad situation, I nearly went bankrupt in part to my hobbying. I was seeing one girl 1 or 2 times a week, plus others. I had to stop so I did. I got my finances back in order, got a better job and am back to hobbying at a more controlled pace.

Hope some part of this helps.
 
Mao, first of all, "civilian" is hardly a term I invented. It's commonly used on this board to describe real life relationships and is a concise term with an appropriate bit of added "colour".

Other people on this board have plenty of life experience, including myself. Reasonable people can disagree on just how, and how much, real life relationships and hobbying differ.

Of course there is such a thing as "a woman who is really into you" and that certainly is a different relationship from seeing an SP. However, it appears that you lack the ability to see relationships from a variety of perspectives if you cannot begin to see some commonalities between the two or the drawbacks of "real" relationships compared to commercial ones. It just isn't as simple as real=good and hobby=delusional.

I used to think as you appear to, until I'd been married long enough, had enough love affairs (including the marriage) to see how these things pan out in the long run (not to mention observing the life experiences of friends and acquaintances along the way). Accordingly, opinions which differ from your own are not born of a lack of experience with either "real" relationships or hobbying.

As I said in my previous post, there is certainly room for reasonable perspectives which differ on this topic. Not everyone who disagrees with you is confused. You might even change your own opinion on this as life rolls along!
 
It has been 3 years since I first responded to this thread ...

Back then, I was in the midst of a divorce, my sons age was no longer being counted in months but in years and a few other problems were coming at me in all directions.

To say that hobbying was one of my problem would be a given, but I seriously dropped my visit frequency and took care of things in my own personal life that made things better than normal. It wasn't until after this that I was willing to go back and reflect.

My observation then is much different than my observation now.

I consider hobbying as more of a recreation and not as a crux and my urges as I get older diminish somewhat but the thrill is always enjoyable. I think of it more as going to see a game, concert or a movie ... it is entertainment.

Now if I go and see a movie every week does that make it an addiction ... I like movies and sometimes watch more than one per week. Am I watching too much TV maybe that is an addiction.

That would depend on how your mind works ...

If your mind is filled with thoughts about MP/SP then you obviously have a sexual addiction but if it also includes massageplanet.net and staying online for hours then you have an internet addiction.

... and how much time you spend allocated to certain activities.

I live a pretty balanced life now after all that turmoil ... I am back with my wife, my son is older and I seriously enjoy spending time with him during the summer, I have a great base of family and friends who keep me occupied more than usual ... and I have my secret outlets of MPA/SPs and massageplanet.net.

I read my response back then and think to myself was I really addicted or was it a simple matter of many different forces in my life coming at me and I was using my visits to MPs as a reasoning behind this or was the hobby having an effect on the other facets of my life that they are now affected in a negative manner.

Think about it !!!

VBB
 
This is an excellent thread and I'm glad to see that it is still going.

I just want to briefly offer some of my own experience. I see MP's and SP's very rarely (less than once a month) because I'm still a student and simply cannot afford to go more often. However, I feel the urge much more frequently than that. Often, I'll call a friend and see about going out for a beer. But, usually I end up masturbating. Sometimes I download a porn video to satisfy the desire for something new. (And it's cheap compared to an MP)

For me, masturbation works quite well. It is simply not worth $150 to spend 30 minutes with anyone and end up releasing only a few drops. That kills the urge until at least the next day, and I can do it as often as necessary.

OffTheWall
 
Pay a few visits to Blue Pearl. It'll leave a bad taste for the hobby in you forever.
 
The memory of awful sessions gone past are indeed required to replace the imagination of "things to come"...pun intended.
 
I see it this way - how much would you be spending on a wife, girlfriend, or even mistress on a weekly basis? If you can afford one of those you can use that money for this hobby. Figure a normal guy spends maybe $150-200 per week on a girlfriend - well there is 2 MP visits.
 
Now someone has started a support group:

http://toronto.craigslist.org/ers/411902099.html

It would be funny--and typical--if it was just porn spammers looking to harvest emails of true addicts.
 
If you spend $150-$200 on a GF, you've hopefully been out having fun somewhere together in addition to the sex benefits.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: JUDY & YUKI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž JUDY is friendly and attractive. Come & give her a try. YUKI is a slim & exiting, happy lady. Nice massage & services available. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls.
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bobo, Vivian & Cindy. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Vivian is an attractive slim Vietnamese honey with C Cups, who can sweeten your day with daty, bj and cfs Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups.
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, EMILY & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun student Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and young flirty Ivy 30โ€™s big buttocks 36DD open mind, sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Yoyo and Sasa are working today. They are young, beautiful, gentle and considerate, and their massage skills are also very good. The service is also very good. Sasa is best at deep massage.
  46. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญELLA๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. ZenWellness:
    BEST MASSAGE IN AURORA - ZEN WELLNESS - 15225 YONGE ST - 647-273-7255
  50. soothinghealth:
    Soothing Health Centre - Vaughan - 71 Strada Dr Unit 1 - 437-345-8078
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