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I was there at the house last night, and I had a one-hour session, my second session with the wisdom escorts. So I guess they're still open as of last night anyways. You guys are right the website is down.

Also they have never asked me for money upfront, on both my visits.

The only problem with my visit last night, was that he said he would pick me up in 15 minutes, and it turned out to be a one-hour wait, in front of the hotel Nelson.

But at least, Don answered the phone when I called him to see what was taking so long to get there to pick me up. If I could not have contacted Don I would've hit the road after a half hour, and headed back to the Zona.

By the way the alley was pretty dead last night. Hong Kong bar was also dead at 7 p.m..
 
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( remember that $60 dollars is an average weekly pay check for some Mexicans
It's only later after talking to other chicas in the business or even clients to they find out they aren't getting such a good deal after all.)




Actually in Tijuana I believe the actual weekly paycheck is more like $80-$100 and that is for six days a week of work . Tijuana is a very expensive place to live in Mexico.

Unfortunately most American guys use American pay standards to determine what a prostitute gets paid in Tijuana. Too many ignorant overpaying Americans in Tijuana.

Unfortunately Americans are coming in droves now to Thailand and overpaying the girls. Up until about six years ago there were very few Americans coming to Thailand, most guys were from Europe and they didn't believe in overpaying.
 
Well they put an ad up on Tijuana craigslist around 4:30pm with no mention of their site being down. I too noticed it down, but not sure what time that was.
 
I do believe Tania did work both AB and Hot Tijuana at the same time. I'm just saying she didn't start at $150.

The guy who opened her site I believe I know as a real loser. He runs some other site in San Diego......or at least he did.

He caused Jazmin GFE to change her name, was Rose Alba before, but wrote a bunch of fake reviews and got her banned from TER...so she changed her name and of course she did not need fake reviews as she is outstanding.

He used various handles and I believe he did one of the first TER reviews for Tania, I believe aspuser or something like that....later was Merican on some of these boards and even on TJA for a minute but left quickly....part of the Ea$y/Noemi battle.

The reason most have a man behind them is because they don't have the handle of the Language....and unfortunately it takes a lot of patience and time to run an agency. For a chica to do dates and run an agency she would damn near not have any private time and of course would lose calls when spending time with clients. If a chica wanted to run an agency and not do dates, it would be much easier, but even then challenging.

I helped a chica for a bit last year and although she spoke pretty good English, she did not always understand the requests. She had lots of guys wanting to meet her for lunch, a drink, etc without doing a date and she would always tell me that was one of the biggest advaneforum.xxxes to working with an agency....someone else can tell them NO without making her look like a bitch. :)
 

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boy, I can't wait for sampson to share his feelings with us on this one:D
 
For what it is worth, I attempted to contact them a few days ago via e-mail to set up an appointment. After two attempts, I never received a response. I was going to keep this experience to myself. It seems my original hunch that WizdomEscorts would follow the route of a meteorite may have come true. They made a huge initial flash onto the scene and then quickly crashed and burned. However, allow us to withhold judgment. It may be as innocent as overlooking a payment to the web service host. As Mark Twain said after learning that a obituary about him was published in the New York Journal, "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
 
There have been lots of reports that Don is having financial problems. It could be as simple as Wizdom didn't pay the web host.


Remember Wizdom tries to collect from the monger before the session starts. The chicas don't "touch" the money.

What I've been hearing is Don doesn't pay/short pays/slow pays his chicas. That many are unhappy--and are leaving.

His prices are great for mongers, but the chicas can do better almost anywhere else. Bars, MPs, and other agencies all offer better earnings potentials. I've been surprised more chicas didn't jump ship earlier.
 
Let me add a #4: And that way you'll be mean to the girl and she'll love you as a customer.

No truely, I hate it when the services collect like 50% of a 100 dll tab and then they tell the girl that the customer paid only like 80 dlls. so she gets 40 or so.

One of the things I do when I get a date with an escort working for a service is ask her for her phone so we, both she and me, can sidestep the service she works for, placing in front of her the idea she will pocket all the money that way.

I just call her directly next time I want to get her services.
 
What happened to "Wizdom escorts" website? It looked like it was wiped off the face of the earth? Could it be a possible violation of TOS they didn't follow and one of their enemies turned them in? Or perhaps they are just changing servers and will be back up in a few days?

I'm also upset that the two girls I did at Wizdom both sweethearts are no longer there! I wonder what happened?
 
Multiple reports have no surfaced (on other boards) that Wisdom Escorts chica's are asking for tips. It appears the house keeps all or most of what the monger pays and the only way the chicas make money is by upselling/getting tips.

The tradition in Tijuana has always been:
1. The price on the website is the full session price
2. Escorts don't expect/ask for tips
3. Payment is not made until after the session

My advice is:
--Beware of "low ball" pricing
--Don't be pressured into giving a tip - say no to upselling
 
well maybe my obituary for wizdom was premature. don got a few new ones in, and claims to be throwing a party on sat. the 30th. my favorite quit, so i'm going to try to sample one of the new girls wed. or thurs. the web site is still a p.o.s. but it has the info about the party if you're interested.

cheers
 
Burt wrote:

That's one of the reason why I never went for that $80 complete package that is offered at some MP's, because I think it's cuts too much into the "Therapist/ provider pay where she maybe will be lucky to get $40 dollars out of that $80 dollars. The normal price at MPs is about $40 for the house, and $80 dollars for the MP chica.

But these MP girls are seasoned vets. They know the score, and know they are getting screwed by the house and the guy that wants the massage, so you can expect to get cheated on your time or service by some of these MP girls.

Now "wizdom escorts" the escorts, usually never worked any place else before and are new to the business. So at first getting $40, or even $60 dollars for a two hour session is going to seem like a good deal. ( remember that $60 dollars is an average weekly pay check for some Mexicans)

It's only later after talking to other chicas in the business or even clients to they find out they aren't getting such a good deal after all.

Now I personally talked to a young 18 years old from Wizdom, and she thought she was getting a good deal from Don, especially on the longer session of two and three hours. Perhaps she wised up, and that's why she isn't there anymore or Don fired her?
 
well folks looks like wizdom has succumbed to the pressure. i called today, don said he only had 3 girls left, and my fav. is gone. he claims he's getting 8 new girls sat. but whatever, we'll see. but it doesn't look good, i hope he can turn this around.

cheers
 
well that sucks, i guess if i go back i'll only bring 40 more than i need. if i loose 40 that's my bad.

cheers
 
Sampson wrote:

I guess we are all different. I don't want to see some girl meet me and pick me up right outside the border. In fact I don't want to see any girl, unless I had at least one beer in the bar, and relaxed a little bit.

I could have sworn that Tanya worked both escort service and bars at the same time some point in her life? But that was long ago, and when I saw her at her close by fuck pad I paid her more than $100 dollars but that was 2004 or early 2005 not sure exactly when, but I have a old trip report about it somewhere.

But the reason why I bring up Tanya again is I was clearing some of my old emails on my other email accounts, and I find I was a member on her website, and it wasn't really ran by her, but somebody who went by the handle of PB or something like that. He admitted he set up her website, and was helping her out.

I wonder who this PB was and if he is still around, or is Tanya finally calling her own shots, regarding everything on her agency.

I have noticed that almost all female escorts operators have men behind the operations helping the ladies out.
 

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as far as i can tell he said it was his first time using a service, that might be why it's his first post. i'm confused, it this guy had an ok time and they asked him to post a review the fact that they asked him to makes it fake. like i've said countless times i had fun so i posted a review about it. and you know what i agree, i was very sceptical of getting into a car with someone i don't know, but i went in the daytime and i'm not a little guy, so i rolled the dice. next time i go i'll tell the owner that you guys want his "mission statement". It's different strokes for different folks, i'm a bargain hunter by nature, sometimes it works out. p.s. if you go don't get nadia, very pretty, but not a good actress.
 
I doubt if that was the case. I really think that Don tries to please customers. And I'm sure he knows that shorting customers on time would definitely not please the customers. In the case of this girl I think she just figured 45 minutes was enough, and since I did not speak Spanish enough to communicate that this was not right, I just had to let it slide.:mad:
 
I would also like to see the site owner of "Wisdom escorts" come to this site or other Tijuana sex forum and tell us a little bit of what he is trying to do in Tijuana with escort services. In a way that's free advertising and it's up front.

I see he would have nothing to lose if he did that, although some sex forums might have a problem with it if it's too blatant. And I'm sure the owner of "Wisdom Escorts" is well aware of all the prostitution sties around? Of course you couldn't blame him for not trying to recruit from whore mongers who the majority of them use the bars and SGs.

I myself might have to go deep uncover and book a session with "Wisdom Escorts" and find out what all the fuss is about either way, good or bad.

In fact I was wondering why Burt hasn't booked a session with them already, but now I see he has and it was a "no show' situation.
 
Sorry for the late replies gents, its been a hell of a holiday season. But have anyone tried any of the new girls at WE?
On the topic of fantasies, I have scratch off the swirter fantasy now I need a find a girl that does deep throat? Any recommendations?
 

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    My first time going to spa in kelee any recommendation for first timer :)
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thirsty Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  36. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  37. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
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