As a newcomer to China (here on biz on and off for the next six months) and this forum, I have enjoyed all the posts on this incredibly informational site. I have to agree, Yu ping IS pussy heaven (868 and 709 eforum.xxx teamed me into oblivion)
Although I had a great lunchtime exp (ice/hot BJ followed by FS with the unbelievably tight 709), I am shocked to read so many expat guys going BB for BJs and more (eating pussy, BBFS). Now, I'm not trying to come off as arrogant, but I'm careful to ALWAYS use a condom with these girls for every sex act (the ice/hot BJ 868 did on me still felt terrific). They may be young, but still prostitutes and most have been accepting many dicks since age 15 or younger. If they are giving BBBJ with CIM regularly, chances are they are also regularly agreeing to screw clients who refuse to wear one during FS and many Chinese men do refuse, mostly out of ignorance given the suppression of education on HIV here. Given these facts, chances are very high they may have contracted HIV but be asymptomatic. I am a doc in the US and have seen first-hand the ravages of AIDs and certainly don't want to risk my life (or my wife's) by taking too many risks..... do a google search to read how this disease is propagating rapidly in ALL of China's cities or read text below this post for more info. I am also including a list of early symptoms for both HIV and other STD's that won't kill you, but will make your life less pleasurable. The bottom line is if you're eating these beautiful but active girls out or even touching them with an open sore of any kind, this is incredibly risky. The mouth is also an understated transmission method when any blood is present, which is common when dental care is low. You can ask to see their gums before BJ's; if they are very red or inflamed, don't do it w/o a condom as they may be bleeding. The sad fact is these girls work for very little $ and many are not educated about HIV coming from rural areas of China, nor are they inclined to spend their hard-earned cash on condoms if they don't have to. Not trying to be preachy but AIDs is a world health issue and we should be doing our part to keep in in check. Party long and hard, but be SAFE out there.
HIV
Human Immunodeficiency Virus invades and impairs the immune system. It can be transmitted bodily fluids such as blood, semen and vaginal secretions. Fluids can enter the system of another individual through broken skin and through mucus membranes, including those found in the mouth, vagina, cervix, rectum and urethra.
Symptoms : There are four seforum.xxxes in HIV infection. Most people who have been exposed to the virus will eventually develop an impaired immune system.
Acute HIV infection. An illness similar to mononucleosis or the flu develops 2-8 weeks after initial HIV infection.
Asymptomatic HIV infection. During this phase (which may last several years), a person will test positive for HIV but will have no symptoms.
Persistent generalized lymphadenopathy (PGL). During this phase, swollen lymph glands are present.
Other HIV disease including AIDS. Symptoms can include:
fatigue
skin rashes
diarrhea
yeast infections
memory changes
There is no cure for AIDS currently, but treatment, such as the drug AZT, focuses on maintaining a healthy immune system and on avoiding infection. It is important, for all those infected with the AIDS virus, whether or not they have any symptoms, to contact a health care practitioner as soon as possible to explore treatment options.
HIV testing is available through Vaden.
Gonorrhea
Gonorrhea is a bacterial STD, transmitted to/from another person through either genital, oral or anal contact. Symptoms appear 2 ot 21 days after contact an infected individual.
Male Symptoms:
• thick, cloudy, foul-smelling penile discharge
• painful, burning sensation upon urination
• testicular or abdominal pain
In women syptoms include:
• thick, pus-like discharge
• vaginal soreness
• painful, burning sensation upon urination
• bleeding after intercourse
• UP TO 80% OF WOMEN EXPERIENCE NO SYMPTOMS
Gonorrhea is treated with an injection of antibiotics.
Chlamydia
• Chlamydia is a bacterial STD and one of the three most common STDs on the Stanford Campus. Symptoms appear from several days to weeks after contact.
Men should look for the following symptoms:
• penile discharge
• burning with urination/frequent or urgent urination
• itching at the end of the penile opening
• 25% OF MEN HAVE NO SYMPTOMS
In women symptoms include:
• increased discharge which may be colorless and odorless
• pain with intercourse on deep penetration and/or bleeding after intercourse
• burning with urination
• 80%-90% OF WOMEN HAVE NO SYMPTOMS
Chlamydia is successfully treated with antiobiotics.
Syphilis
Syphilis is a bacterial infection spread through open sores, rashes or broken skin. The first symptoms appear 9-90 days after infection.
Symptoms:
• development of a chancre (painless sore)
• swollen painful joints/aching bones
• rash on hands and feet and mild hair loss
Syphilis is readily treated with an injection of antibiotics.
Chancroid
Chancroid is a bacterial infection which can be transmitted through oral, vaginal, or anal intercourse. Untreated chancroid can infect and swell the glands located in the groin. Chancroid is especially dangerous as the sores it produces increase the chances of getting HIV.
Symptoms:
• appearance of small boil or ulcer
• open sore
• painful urination
Chancroid is successfully treated with oral antibiotics.
Herpes
Herpes is a viral infection which enters the body through the mucous membranes of the mouth and genitals. Herpes can be classified into Types 1 and 2: "Oral Herpes" and "Genital Herpes". Both strains can, however, affect the genital area and can be passed on through genital-genital contact and through oral-genital contact. Herpes symptoms are apparent 3-7 days after exposure. Herpes is one of the three most common STDs found on the Stanford Campus.
Symptoms associated with a Herpes outbreak:
• mild tingling and burning
• watery blisters
• low grade fever/headache
There is no cure for Herpes. Syptoms may be relieved with the use of pain relievers, wearing dry, loose clothing, and treatment with Acyclovir (a viral inhibitor).
Human Papilloma Virus (HPV)
HPV is caused by a virus which is transmitted by skin to skin contact. It is usually spread through genital to genital contact, although infection through oral sex has been reported. HPV is one of the three most common STDs found on the Stanford Campus. The incubation period for symptoms is one month to many years.
Symptoms in both men and women include:
• palpable lump or irregularity of the skin surface
• painful intercourse if the lesions are rubbed
• NO SYMPTOMS
While the warts may be removed using liquid nitrogen, electrocautery or laser treatments, the virus remains dormant and recurrence is likely. Important note: HPV is responsible for most cases of cervical cancer in women.
Research Data on Oral Transmissions of HIV
My comments: I know you'll be interested in understanding that the "2-girls at once", although exciting and not to be missed
may, in fact, expose the FS worker population in China to increased numbers of HIV transmissions....here are some research facts you may find useful and a list of early symptoms, just in case...see "Potential Co-Factors" below to understand the risk during oral; while rare, even a 1% chance of contracting HIV is too high. USE your own condoms; Chinese ones are low quality and have a tendency to tear.
Female-to-Female Transmission of HIV through Oral Intercourse: Truth or Bias?
To date, there have been several reports of HIV transmission through orogenital contact between lesbians (cunnilingus).17 A number of researchers have suggested, however, that bisexual activity may be under-reported by gay women, and therefore that not all of the cases of female-to-female transmission of HIV infection are authentic.18
Possible Transmission of HIV Between Heterosexual Partners as a Result of Oral Intercourse
There are significant reported cases (6,000+ WW) in the literature of female prostitutes who acquired HIV infection after performing oral sex on their seropositive male partner (receptive fellatio).19
Cases of infection in men following oral sex with their female partners have been reported, including several in which men were apparently infected via fellatio involving prostitutes.20,21
Potential Co-Factors for HIV Transmission during Oral Sex
Saliva that
does not contain blood presents no potential for transmission, as research has shown that an enzyme in saliva inhibits HIV. In general, the mouth and throat are well defended against HIV: the oral mucosal lining contains few cells that are the most susceptible to HIV.22 Other research notes that saliva contains several HIV inhibitors, such as peroxidases and thrombospondin-1, and that the hypotonicity of saliva disrupts the transmission of infected leukocytes (white blood cells).23
Case reports identify factors potentially associated with increased risk of HIV transmission through oral sex:
oral trauma, sores, inflammation, concomitant sexually transmitted infections, ejaculation in the mouth, and systemic immune suppression.11 For receptive fellatio, poor oral health and taking ejaculate in the mouth is a hazardous combination that increases the risk of HIV transmission.24
In a 1996 cross-sectional study of female sex workers, oral lesions were associated with HIV infection among persons who reported receptive oral sex.25
A 1998 study of female sex trade workers found that those who inconsistently used condoms when performing oral sex on their clients were more likely to be infected with HIV than were those who consistently used condoms when performing fellatio.26
A 2003 study of female sex workers indicate HIV may have acquired through receptive oral intercourse: 33 reported oral problems, including occasional bleeding gums.7
Conclusions
While oral sex is a lower risk activity than unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse, repeated exposures may increase the risk. Safer sex practices should consider oral sex, particularly unprotected receptive fellatio with ejaculation, as a potential risk behaviour for HIV transmission.