Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

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Nice...wish you all the best. If there's anyone on here who's seen it all, it should be you so I wonder what your secret is to keep going after all these years...
It's not me. it's my little KJ. I think about balls, golf balls every day. He thinks about holes and bushes all the time. He woke up swinging this morning again..lol
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
Long ago and not too far away, I took a bottle of very fine red wine to every session with a little hottie called herself Jade.
Lets say the wine was a great catalyst to amazing sessions. The spa BTW at that time had no problem with it.
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
"Make the mood". I believe that there are always some brilliant ideas out there...
Once I was waiting for Renee on the table after enhanced the setup a bit in a funny way.. she was laughing that loud that even took a pic of me (I hope to the her hall of fame:) the session was exceptional too...
There is always something that breaks the ice.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
 
Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
Definitely utilize the edible options available online.
 
I hear you but what can I do outside my comfort zone "at the spa''? Any ideas?

Here's the stage I'm at. You know how much you enjoyed your sessions with Lucy and Coco. Well, if I'm keeping it real, my sessions with them did nothing for me. Don't get me wrong, the place itself was nice and clean, the ladies were pretty, friendly and definitely above average (for semis) but the experience was still very routine for me. Maybe folks are right and I should take a break to recharge...but I know myself. I might slow down for a bit but I doubt I'll exit completely.

...my sessions w/Lucy were always unexpected... really doubt youโ€™d know our timing... maybe u need to let them take charge? Just a thought... she gave me a great shot @ COF finish once, she barely escaped... fun, u know?

...could PAY someone for COF finish, but meh, no mystery there...

...maybe u ironed out all yr kinks? If ever get cured of yellow fever, Iโ€™d try black & East Indian spinners... if not, maybe those jailbait chix at QQ... or high end SP... or just those cute Indy Asian SP like Asian Nicole...

...or supermarket milfs like Hangdai...

...how about going to that tiny spa with a few gems & โ€˜help them outโ€™? The KJ life... lite... bunch of disposable gfs...

...fun finding MPAs that look like friend or colleague... FILF or CILF... therapeutic...

... Iโ€™d suggest Pornhub 4 ideas 2 try out, but MPAs way more exciting than porn 4 me...
 
In the past, I averaged about 45 visits to sex workers per year. Now, I am down to about 8 - 10 per year. Visit them when it is in your best interest - time, money, proximity etc. and you will be fine. Also, demand good service and tell the girl what you will pay. I always tell the girl what I will pay. I dont care about her posted price. I saw a girl last month that advertises $400 and I paid her $200. Another girl last year wanted $260 and I paid her $180. Explain to them why you value them at the price you are paying. Dont be rude or aggressive about it. Just state facts matter-of-factly.

In general, dont chase a sex-worker and pay through the nose to spend time with her - that's when it become's worthless. No woman has value except that value you place on her vagina. And as she ages, her vagina becomes alot less valuable than what you might have paid her years ago. Treat a woman, a hooker etc. like a used car and be logical about it. You will be fine if you do that.
 
Thanks for the suggestion and I do want to try this place one day. But correct me if I'm wrong, this kinda place is one where you'll want to spend at least a couple of hours at and right now, I usually don't have that much time.
Itโ€™s a great place to hang out for a couple of hours. Have a steam, sauna, hot tub a snack and a cold drink. All included in the price.
 
I used to hobby quite a bit in my younger days. Then after a long hiatus, I ventured back in probably around 3 years ago. As many on here know, I mainly stick with semi-legits as I do appreciate a nice massage and the more casual (i.e. less transactional) atmosphere.

However, lately I'm not enjoying my sessions as much. Mileage is at all time highs so that's not the issue but something is definitely lacking...maybe it's because although I'm getting high mileage at semi-legits, the ladies just aren't that experienced (or good) at these higher level services and I can no longer rely on that 'surprise' experience anymore to get me excited.

The way I see it, I have a couple of options...start venturing into the holistic / SP world with younger, hotter chicks that know what they're doing or just stick with a good massage and basic hj at semi-legits and forgo the higher level stuff. By not being concerned with the mileage I get, it would also allow me to explore and visit more new places (since I would only be expecting a hj anyways). Of course, I could mix it up and do a bit of both too...

Has anyone else found themselves in a rut before and what did you do about it? I'm very interested in hearing other's experiences with this...

Been there. It's simple, change it up. Too much semi legit? Go see an SP, there are so many options... from Leo List to agencies.
 
I generally take a break every 3 months and stay away from things ,then when you start back hobbiying again it seems all new again with new faces and pussy to explore all over again!, not to mention the bank account can regain some !
 
I kind of understand that once starting this hobby,it takes you to different levels and some people based on income have to slow down and most of us are getting even more into it to the point like our friend is saying ,that almost nothing pleases anymore.My self,I went to this stages also in my over 20 years of hobbing where after I would see one girl ,I would think about going to see another as soon as possible,sometimes in the same week.Then I had some years when I slowed down but almost never able to totally get out of it.It's very hard to advise because almost never works the way we think,once we got into this hobby.One think that I could say is that there is always gonna be another one that will create interest for you to the point that it will never end, as long as our blood is running to our veins.Try to think less of this and maybe will help finding the best solution and maybe change something in your life.Stay safe and enjoy life!!
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...

I've always enjoyed exercise regardless of hobbying but I know what you mean about at least trying to look respectable with the ladies...
 
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Haha, pretty sure whatever charm I 'might' have will not make up for my physical deficiencies when it comes to the premier girls...definitely out of my league. But I guess that's a good thing...and I do want to try one day.

That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.
 
That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.

Thanks for sharing your journey...and yes, there's more on the bucket list to check off so I guess I'm not quite done yet ๐Ÿ™‚

You may recall some of the advice you gave me way back when I first joined this forum. Looking back, I've come a long way since then. I remember being so caught up with my 'honey'...I was thinking about her all the time (like everyday) and would be so depressed whenever she took her annual trip back to China. She's still one of my faves but I'm in such a better place now. She's been in China for several months now and while I do think about her from time to time, I'm not 'sad' at all. It's a long journey and I guess each of us continues to learn and adapt along the way.
 
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    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  25. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  26. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธCamilaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  27. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  28. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  29. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  30. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  31. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Phoenix has joined Nayla & New Girl Kelly Tonight ๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  32. vnycool:
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  33. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  35. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Mika, Apple and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 white skin Latin Spanish girl &Asian girl today /// Young curvy body Colombia girl in Tuesday
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜ป Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,4young girl working every day,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,most of all she know how to make man happy,๐Ÿ’„Mina is36DCup smooth skin ,she can provide back walking nice body slide,get more experience soft to medium, must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐ŸŒบ
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  46. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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