Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

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Nice...wish you all the best. If there's anyone on here who's seen it all, it should be you so I wonder what your secret is to keep going after all these years...
It's not me. it's my little KJ. I think about balls, golf balls every day. He thinks about holes and bushes all the time. He woke up swinging this morning again..lol
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
Long ago and not too far away, I took a bottle of very fine red wine to every session with a little hottie called herself Jade.
Lets say the wine was a great catalyst to amazing sessions. The spa BTW at that time had no problem with it.
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
"Make the mood". I believe that there are always some brilliant ideas out there...
Once I was waiting for Renee on the table after enhanced the setup a bit in a funny way.. she was laughing that loud that even took a pic of me (I hope to the her hall of fame:) the session was exceptional too...
There is always something that breaks the ice.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
 
Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
Definitely utilize the edible options available online.
 
I hear you but what can I do outside my comfort zone "at the spa''? Any ideas?

Here's the stage I'm at. You know how much you enjoyed your sessions with Lucy and Coco. Well, if I'm keeping it real, my sessions with them did nothing for me. Don't get me wrong, the place itself was nice and clean, the ladies were pretty, friendly and definitely above average (for semis) but the experience was still very routine for me. Maybe folks are right and I should take a break to recharge...but I know myself. I might slow down for a bit but I doubt I'll exit completely.

...my sessions w/Lucy were always unexpected... really doubt youโ€™d know our timing... maybe u need to let them take charge? Just a thought... she gave me a great shot @ COF finish once, she barely escaped... fun, u know?

...could PAY someone for COF finish, but meh, no mystery there...

...maybe u ironed out all yr kinks? If ever get cured of yellow fever, Iโ€™d try black & East Indian spinners... if not, maybe those jailbait chix at QQ... or high end SP... or just those cute Indy Asian SP like Asian Nicole...

...or supermarket milfs like Hangdai...

...how about going to that tiny spa with a few gems & โ€˜help them outโ€™? The KJ life... lite... bunch of disposable gfs...

...fun finding MPAs that look like friend or colleague... FILF or CILF... therapeutic...

... Iโ€™d suggest Pornhub 4 ideas 2 try out, but MPAs way more exciting than porn 4 me...
 
In the past, I averaged about 45 visits to sex workers per year. Now, I am down to about 8 - 10 per year. Visit them when it is in your best interest - time, money, proximity etc. and you will be fine. Also, demand good service and tell the girl what you will pay. I always tell the girl what I will pay. I dont care about her posted price. I saw a girl last month that advertises $400 and I paid her $200. Another girl last year wanted $260 and I paid her $180. Explain to them why you value them at the price you are paying. Dont be rude or aggressive about it. Just state facts matter-of-factly.

In general, dont chase a sex-worker and pay through the nose to spend time with her - that's when it become's worthless. No woman has value except that value you place on her vagina. And as she ages, her vagina becomes alot less valuable than what you might have paid her years ago. Treat a woman, a hooker etc. like a used car and be logical about it. You will be fine if you do that.
 
Thanks for the suggestion and I do want to try this place one day. But correct me if I'm wrong, this kinda place is one where you'll want to spend at least a couple of hours at and right now, I usually don't have that much time.
Itโ€™s a great place to hang out for a couple of hours. Have a steam, sauna, hot tub a snack and a cold drink. All included in the price.
 
I used to hobby quite a bit in my younger days. Then after a long hiatus, I ventured back in probably around 3 years ago. As many on here know, I mainly stick with semi-legits as I do appreciate a nice massage and the more casual (i.e. less transactional) atmosphere.

However, lately I'm not enjoying my sessions as much. Mileage is at all time highs so that's not the issue but something is definitely lacking...maybe it's because although I'm getting high mileage at semi-legits, the ladies just aren't that experienced (or good) at these higher level services and I can no longer rely on that 'surprise' experience anymore to get me excited.

The way I see it, I have a couple of options...start venturing into the holistic / SP world with younger, hotter chicks that know what they're doing or just stick with a good massage and basic hj at semi-legits and forgo the higher level stuff. By not being concerned with the mileage I get, it would also allow me to explore and visit more new places (since I would only be expecting a hj anyways). Of course, I could mix it up and do a bit of both too...

Has anyone else found themselves in a rut before and what did you do about it? I'm very interested in hearing other's experiences with this...

Been there. It's simple, change it up. Too much semi legit? Go see an SP, there are so many options... from Leo List to agencies.
 
I generally take a break every 3 months and stay away from things ,then when you start back hobbiying again it seems all new again with new faces and pussy to explore all over again!, not to mention the bank account can regain some !
 
I kind of understand that once starting this hobby,it takes you to different levels and some people based on income have to slow down and most of us are getting even more into it to the point like our friend is saying ,that almost nothing pleases anymore.My self,I went to this stages also in my over 20 years of hobbing where after I would see one girl ,I would think about going to see another as soon as possible,sometimes in the same week.Then I had some years when I slowed down but almost never able to totally get out of it.It's very hard to advise because almost never works the way we think,once we got into this hobby.One think that I could say is that there is always gonna be another one that will create interest for you to the point that it will never end, as long as our blood is running to our veins.Try to think less of this and maybe will help finding the best solution and maybe change something in your life.Stay safe and enjoy life!!
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...

I've always enjoyed exercise regardless of hobbying but I know what you mean about at least trying to look respectable with the ladies...
 
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Haha, pretty sure whatever charm I 'might' have will not make up for my physical deficiencies when it comes to the premier girls...definitely out of my league. But I guess that's a good thing...and I do want to try one day.

That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.
 
That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.

Thanks for sharing your journey...and yes, there's more on the bucket list to check off so I guess I'm not quite done yet ๐Ÿ™‚

You may recall some of the advice you gave me way back when I first joined this forum. Looking back, I've come a long way since then. I remember being so caught up with my 'honey'...I was thinking about her all the time (like everyday) and would be so depressed whenever she took her annual trip back to China. She's still one of my faves but I'm in such a better place now. She's been in China for several months now and while I do think about her from time to time, I'm not 'sad' at all. It's a long journey and I guess each of us continues to learn and adapt along the way.
 
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    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LILY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LILY is a beautiful slim Thai lady, petite with C Cups & a nice medium sized ass. Her services will complete your day.
  29. Bencook:
    Suko have Youngest Beautiful Lily ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Hellen Sky Lucky Michelle Emma ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐplease call 647 718 6182
  30. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Pretty Girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  32. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good
  33. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery friendly Cici,open maid.new girl,amazing touch,happy the end,must try ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ”ฅgive you warm comfortable time๐Ÿฅคโค๏ธ
  34. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  35. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday June 4, 2025, our attendants will be Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Carla ๐Ÿฅณ and Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is OLIVIA, ANGELA, LISA & KITTY ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Jasmine, Echo, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Doris, busty Amber, Kelly & Luna โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  40. Bencook:
    Suko have many beautiful girls working here ๐Ÿ˜Newer lala 24,beautiful lineup Mia Nora student Hellen Big boobs jojo yumi please call 647 718 6182
  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyแปƒn enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  47. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
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