Bar fight video in Soi Lion

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Yes! And all the more reason to avoid getting in the situation in the first place. I just hope people read this and take heed before they travel and know the score if they are inclined to pick a fight after a few beers. If you think you can handle it with a few beer muscles inside you then think again............I hope!

It's been a while since I have been in the UK but we used to have spates of what they called "Paki-Bashing" - Gangs of white kids jumping all over lone Pakistani kids - Very brave, now, the shoe is on the other foot and it's the Pakistani's ganging up and jumping all over any lone white kid they find. Normally no alcohol or no more provocation other than having the wrong skin colour.

I guess the Thais are quite happy to gang up on the Farang if they want to.

I must admit to seeing very little 'un-provoked' violence in and around Phuket and there has normally been a 'reason' for why some tourist has taken a kicking and ended up in hospital.
 
I totally agree. That’s the way to help out – before it escalates, and any real friend of that guy would have stopped him before that coward and his friends sucker punched and kicked him.
 
Phew! Someone buy that Hobster bloke a beer!

Not me obviously as I'm skint..................!!
 
Sometimes when I see a fight I will think about this and that,
stay away? help out, is it worth it? then react... usually I watch in fear of harm to self .:sarcastic:
Other times I don't think at all, watch the fight frozen to the spot.:eyes:
Then afterwards wonder why my brain and body was in pause mode.
Other times rush in without thinking about it (like catching a ball)
and pull them apart (I never go in swinging)
I guess a combination of all 3 is normal... umm is it?
 
I was in Shipwreck bar opposite Soi Crocodile a few weeks back, and what looked like a whole rugby team of Aussie guys all built like brick shithouses were acting like complete assholes, arguing amongst each other, disrespecting the staff and vehemently disputing the size of their bar bills. Quite a few Thai guys started to congregate out the front, but none of them did anything because they realised they didn't have the numbers or the muscle to do anything about it.

Now although these Aussie guys may have deserved to be reprimanded in some way, from what I can tell these Thai guys will only do anything when the numbers are in their favour.
 
I think you're getting close with this one, because when it all kicks off somewhere near you, how you respond is either instinctive, (Training/Experience), or as a result of thinking. Most times it is all over before you have had the time to think clearly in real time, so if you are not trained to respond properly, guess what? you won't.

That rush you feel when faced with a situation is adrenaline preparing you for "Fight or Flight". Ironically, both of these responses are driven by the primal need for self preservation. Nine times out of ten you won't fight and that's just what nature intended!

On the other hand, most people would face down, anyone whose fighting was directly endangering the safety of their children or loved ones.

So yes, one of the three responses would be quite normal IMHO
 
That so could have been avoided not fair by our standards but know what can happen and keep your wits ...that was not cool
 
haha
you give thai guys like that waaaaaay too much credit
they want their gf working in the bar
then she comes home, takes her money and kicks the shit out of her

i have seen on 4 different occasions, nice girls(relatively i guess) making some good money as bg's, then get involved with one of these scum karoke guys
within 2 months, they never had a dime in their pocket and within 4 months all 4 of them were threatened with being killed if they left their bf's
all 4 of them had to leave phuket eventually to get away from the thai guys

yeah, those are the poor little broke thai guys you talk about
 
I think a bar girl tried that when she saw the guy passed out on the deck.
She faced the same problem so many first aiders, and paramedics face when dealing with the after effects of excessive drink and drug use, in that she got belted for her trouble. Some people just lash out when they wake up suddenly even if they are lying in the middle of a busy road, some railway tracks, or even the floor of a bar in patong.

Full marks to her for trying, because if people stop doing even that, you will see bar owners removing bodies on a regular basis the next morning because believe it or not, there are people out there who would not even bother to step over you.
 
when you highlight the words yes I see what you are saying... but I think he is annoyed ft thats all and has used strong words but his message is spot on IMHO just could have missed out the negatives.....we all get carried away and emotional sometimes.
 
Dont agree at all.. Yes theres plenty of random street violence.. But no way random uninvolved bystanders all run over to lay the boot in..

I am more with paulie than the detractors in this.. they do jump at the chance to dogpack any farang in a ruck for any reason.
 
Yes, Thank god.

From what I understand the comments on the video state that this guy had just hit a girl, so far from being the wildest, most unlikely situations, its true in this case, and its pretty obvious that you having only just witnessed the end would have just waded into help the guy.
 
again, highly disagree with you
i have seen countless times , thais who had nothing to do with the situation, join in and violently going after a farang
now i am not saying the farang was right in the 1st time but in every single instance that i saw, it wasn't like the farang was overpowering the thai guy and they were coming to his defense, which i could agree with
in every single instance i have seen, it was "oh there is a fight brewing with a thai guy and farang, lets all get our kicks in". i have seen thai guys come in, again on numerous times, and kick a defenseless farang who clearly has been beating in the head when they been laid out on the ground
 
Welcome to the P4P industry of Thailand! The place we chose to live and holiday!

I guess if I provoked them into wanting to give me a good kicking over what ever reason, I am not going to ask for their life history! We know it's a gang culture! So best not to be surprised if you start off with one, it is soon going to be followed up by more.

I guess they are guarding their investment like any pimp in any P4P area of the world.

On another note on my last trip to Bangla I unfortunately witnessed a British (Welsh) bloke knocking ten kinds of shit out of his Welsh girlfriend whilst she was pinned to a wall by the neck by this idiot. It was Thai guys who pulled him away from her. Held him until the Police had cuffed him and then helped her into an ambulance! So in that respect I do give them credit yes!

I guess if I was to go out with the idea I might end up in a fight, I invariably do! If I go out with the intention of just having a good time, again, I do.
 
only just read this thread and to many multi quotes to do to make sense but i think pablo?? said it best "your in there back yard"
this line of debate made me think of some quotes that i read.

"as a foreigner in the country, you should avoid violence at all costs. if you do happen to witness an altercation, stay out of it. this is particularly true if the fight or argument involves thai people. thais are very caring, placid and gentle people, however they can snap in a second and their anger knows no bounds. it can get deadly serious."

"because alcohol can bring out the worst in people,never go out on a drinking spree with, pursue an argument or attempt to 'get tough' with a thai man.
"many a foreigner has thought he has won an altercation and settled it, only to find that the guy returns later with a few of his friends to even the score."
it's a matte of 'face' which means less to us than them.

reading this thread, i can't help to think that many opinion that has been put forward is western thinking and so be it, i would agree that a guy shouldn't be beaten up, mano-mano,

but TIT and THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
 
Funny, how many people would wade into a fight!!
How many of those same people would offer First Aid???
 
Don't worry- he fights like a girl- already threatened to 'slap' a number of people in here. Interesting how threatening assault on fellow BMs didn't bring about a ban though:whistle:

I'm with you on this- nothing 'wussie' about walking away or backing down to avoid trouble with the Thais- it's a no win situation anyway. As you say those who know how to fight are the ones most likely to avoid one.

A good sensible post IMHO- well done.
 
Do they sell testosterone in Phuket?
Id love to join in the conversation, its so.. well.. its so.. macho...

FFS, you sound like a bunch of Spaniards strutting their nothingness.

As someone said this is a personal subject and will go round in circles until it gets nasty.. which it has.. and at the end of the thread, no winners, just petulant sulking and unnecessary anger.
 
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