Covid. Time to stop the bleeding before it’s too late.

[EnjoyingLife]

I simplify what Albertaman is saying, it could be just the flu. The mortality rates adjusted based on the initial studies by USC shows that around 4.1% of the a LA county had antibodies, they probably did some random selection and told people to come by and draw on their blood sample. The sample was around 900 people. Based on those people 4.1% had the antibody, meaning they were infected already and healed now. The extrapolate that to larger population to get a more accurate picture of COVID-19 cases, the estimated mortality rate is anywhere between 0.1% to 0.3% which is similar or the same as the seasonal flu.

Early antibody testing suggests COVID-19 infections in L.A. County greatly exceed documented cases

The early results of USC/Los Angeles County antibody testing show a surprising number of residents have been infected with COVID-19.

news.usc.edu

No medical background but heard the PCR testing kit they use are pretty erroneous, because the COV SARS 2 never met kochs postulate criteria, and the test kit test for genetic material and try to match it to any portion of the COV SARS 2 RNA virus strain.

 

[Old Fart]

OF, recommend you get yourself one of these safe shelters 11m deep in the ground, in New Zealand... just check out the companies building them.. that way you can hide out the rest of your days. Hey, why don't we just make this a permanent situation? Think the government employees love working from home . They do just as much as they did before. Nada. For the rest in the private sector.. people are ready to move forward.

This has nothing to do with hiding. If you want to disagree with me fine but disagree with my point and not something I did not even mention (and then people question my "tone" - sheesh).
My comment was in reference to inflating the number of dead, which is idiotic unless they are burying people alive and intend to dig them up later.
And before you knock government workers, remember who is sending you all those benefits you are lined up to receive, both provincially and federally.
If you think they have it so great and you want work so bad, go apply. Who is stopping you?

 

[m694ever]

Andrew Potter of the globe and mail says it well:

“Canadians have been doing their duty, self-isolating and washing their hands and singing the chorus to “Flatten the Curve.” But this can’t go on for another six months, let alone the 12 or 18 that the prime minister has suggested might be required while we wait for a vaccine. If that’s the best plan the health officials can come up with, then we need another plan, or maybe new officials. And we need to stop treating it as a crime to say so.”

 

[m694ever]

We are currently losing 0.7% per week of the GNP for Canada. That equates to $228,000.00/minute as this house arrest continues. Enactment of bill 10 has taken away our rights and freedom. A direct contradiction to what our parents went to war for. Life does have a price and no life is not fair. Ask a war vet. Ask a senior who watched people starve to death in the 30’s. Ask the families of the Nova Scotia mass murder. By definition Heart disease, cancer, diabetes are all pandemics and kill more. Currently people cannot get treatment because a flu curve has halted common sense.

 

[Albertaman]

In the private sector, ppl just want to get back to working from their regular place of work, not work from home. We are not interested in drawing any benefits. So OF and government workers can stuff it and continue with their goofing off. GL. No more comments on this thread.


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[m694ever]

I started this thread, and now this is my final post on it. I am part owner of a company in the oil sector. Yesterday we laid off 32 employees, and retained 3. At first I had a hard time with this, but the more I rationalize this media(us) created panic the more I realize the outcome is going to be a hard reality check for younger people.

The first on my list of permanent layoffs was Safety who imposed interpretations of rules, sold them to employees forcing management to implement. The second were the healthy employees who optioned to work from home. Did not see productivity of any level and lots treated it as a holiday. Unfortunately there were 6 who we maybe will hire back in a year or two should we come through this.

At this point I am simply bitter as I have been opposed to this from the get go. I played the game and curbed my thoughts for weeks now. Health professionals running the country, creating laws all without input from other professions has created massive unemployment. The tailspin will impact all of us. WHO, Health officials, and contributing political sheep need be laid off as well. They again “have no skin in the game”. Our countries leader is currently printing money we do not have. Dictating law, shutting down protests, media posts of anyone (renowned doctors included) opposing their ”law” will cost joe average dearly. This post would be pulled on facebook. My Father and his 7 brothers(2 of which never returned) fought for our country would have the balls to make hard life balancing decisions. I’m done with Degens. Life lessons soon to be learned. Good Luck to you all.

 

[Stutter69]

I can most identify with A.J. After, over 100 people being laid off (including two of my fellow forklifters yesterday), I am feeling more and more sad...in spite of quite possibly, holding onto my job through to the end of this.

My children and I were struck with some sort of Flu Virus, about a year ago. It included bouts of non-stop coughing, and Pneumonia. Incredibly taxing, struggling to breathe, or even getting out of bed. Thanks to antibiotics, I only missed three weeks of work. I fear that experience, probably damaged my lungs. If I get Covid19, I might be one of the younger ones that doesn't make it. So....its not just an elderly issue.
Taking extreme cautions, probably has saved lives, like mine.

Although, I can never agree with O.F.'s tone of rebuke...(in my opinion), he was right on the money, advising us to stop going for massage visits, until there was a vaccine. On my last visit, before the shut down, the lady was wearing a mask, and washed her hands multiple times throughout the hour. (Thank God!)

you probably have it or had it

 

[Stutter69]

◦
◦ That’s a typical response from someone that can’t handle an argument and only cares about his view.
◦ Heart disease is the highest cause of death and cancer right behind.
◦ Since you are so worried about the death rate, why don’t you look up what causes heart disease while stuffing your face with Twinkie’s and KFC.
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More than nine in 10 people dying with coronavirus have an underlying health condition, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.
The ONS looked at nearly 4,000 deaths during March in England and Wales where coronavirus was mentioned on the death certificate.
In 91% of cases the individuals had other health problems.
The most common was heart disease, followed by dementia and respiratory illness.
On average, people dying also had roughly three other health conditions.

The coronavirus has spread rapidly in the US, and the number of deaths has grown exponentially along with it. From April 9 to 15, at least 13,613 people died from COVID-19, compared with 9,801 the week before.
For comparison, 12,451 people died on average per week from heart diseases and 11,521 people died per week from cancer in 2018. Fewer than 800 people died from car crashes in any week that year.

And here Professor Willie thinks junk food is playing no part in the death rate.
Wow you’re smart

I think you should go out without a mask and gloves every day. really, do it.

 

[Stutter69]

Here is what I have learned through all of this:

1) When one is stuck at home, one tends to do allot of online learning.
2) There is ALLOT of different “facts” out there and people will cling to the facts that work best to help ease their own anxiety. (Guilty)
3) People get jumpy and on edge when cooped up.
4) Not everyone Will have the same opinions.
5) We can all agree to disagree, but be gentle with the backlash on those differing opinions.

Truth is, unless you work for the CDC, or the government, it’s tough to know the whole truth right now. Comparing what disease will take us out the fastest, (or has in the past) seems counterproductive in my eyes. I have to keep reminding myself that, unless your 102 years old, no one has been through this before. I am not the only overtly anxious person and we are all stumbling around in the dark.

MM started offering constructive help like the best place for TP. It was some good info for sure. Or Jistaguys “best massage ever” thread. Maybe we can offer more good ideas to ease the pain. like good take out restaurants or sales on your favourite booze. Buying local. (Not intended as a gloat for those without means)

This was not meant to sound all fru-fru like “let’s share our feelings in a circle with wine in or pyjamas then end with a pillow fight” I just get antsy without structure.

Be kind guys, but If you can’t, get a mouth guard to protect your gritted teeth when mash texting a scathing response.

holy fuck here comes the hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stutter69]

At the end of the day, the true death rate will be a fraction of all of the hyped numbers being put out there today. Yes the virus is novel. But the first coronavirus was originally observed under a SEM by a woman (Scottish) virologist in Toronto, Canada in 1964. Latest Stanford study, not yet peer reviewed expects death rates in the 0.12% to 0.20% range. Many more of us were already infected and naturally cured since last November/December.


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fucking awesome Dr Google. throw out your mask and gloves please congregate your fucking twirp

 

[Stutter69]

Each year in Canada, the numbers of dead and the causes, are as follows:

Abortion 100,000
Cancer 80,000
Heart Disease 51,000
Cerebrovascular Diseases 13,000
Accidents 12,000
Respiratory Illnesses 12,000
Diabetes 7,000
Alzheimers 6,000
Flu and Pneumonia 6,000
Suicide 4,000
Liver Disease 3,000
Deaths on Public Healthcare Waiting Lists - Not reported by govt healthcare system

Covid deaths so far - 1600**

**And that's the number the govt gives, which is suspect because it makes no sense that Quebec has a much lower population than Ontario, with much less population density, yet their reported cases and deaths are highest in Canada. Seems suspiciously misreported for the purposes of benefiting from the crises. The hospitals get paid more by their provincial healthcare authorities to treat a Covid patient than a Flu patient. Hence, staff would have a greater incentive to lie about the cause of death and report most as being from the Covid virus whether or not that was the actual case.

whewwwwwwwwwwww hey pass me that joint

 

[Stutter69]

It’s time to open up the world before it cannot recover. Politicians and health officials need to take the blinders off and realize that economic suicide will kill far more than a virus.

Video: Coronavirus: Economic and Social Collapse: Mass Unemployment, Bankruptcy, Poverty and Despair - Global Research

First published on April 16, 2020 There is a serious health crisis which must be duly resolved. But there is another important dimension which has to be addressed. Millions of people have lost their jobs, and their lifelong savings. In developing countries, poverty and despair prevail. While...

www.globalresearch.ca

COVID-19 by "Swiss Doctor Team" - Global Research

Our “Swiss doctor” team provided the following information on the current situation in order to enable our readers to make a realistic risk assessment. (Below you will find regular, but not daily, updates on medical and political developments.) *** According to the latest data of the Italian...

www.globalresearch.ca

I hope its at least another 2 years

 

[EnjoyingLife]

Hey please explain to me how a N95 mask would even help? N95 mask pores are around 300 nm, and this so called virus is around 60-120 nm? So this so called virus would go through the mask like a mosquito going through a chain linked fence. Google it.

Look up the history on how governments in the past lied to their citizens, disarmed their own citizens, and then using government agencies to intentionally even kill certain citizens, and then paint it a different story on the media outlets. There's a specific term for it. Not saying this is happen to us now but time and times again in historical sense, governments have lied to their own people, yet some people here are dumb enough to believe in these narratives provided by the mainstream media.

 

[Ursus]

In the U.S., the various govt leaders are reporting 62,000 deaths from Covid19. But the number of Covid19 deaths, based upon official Death Certificate certifications is 37,000. Essentially, the govt leaders are misreporting the Covid19 deaths to the high side.

And Doug Ford, the idiot Ontario Premiere has just allowed Garden Centres to reopen, but wont allow furniture manufacturers to do the same. Not even Dentists can open for general Oral Care of their patients (only 'emergencies').

Notice how garden centres were deemed essential as soon as May 1st came?

This is all a scam designed to control people and destroy freedom.

And the Sheeple of Ontario are loving their new, totally-dominated existence.

We will have massive business closures, unemployment galore, peple losing their houses, their marriages breaking up, etc. and it was all a scam, evident by the govt now allowing Garden Centres to open on May 4th. What happened to making sacrifices to save lives? Who needs a new plant or flower in their garden?

The same communists in Canada that were demanding things be closed to 'flatten the curve' are now celebrating the Garden Centres reopening because they argue it would be nice to grow a garden to cheer people up. You can never argue with a Leftist because they dont care about evidence, logic or anything else. They only care about their govt overlords and the actions of their trend setting friends.

 

[Wills_willie]

Hey Toast. You can't catch heart disease or cancer from standing next to someone or shaking their hand. Try comparing apples to apples. The comparison here is SARS or the Spanish Flu.
Damn, took him off ignore, my mistake, back on he goes.

 

[EnjoyingLife]

In the U.S., the various govt leaders are reporting 62,000 deaths from Covid19. But the number of Covid19 deaths, based upon official Death Certificate certifications is 37,000. Essentially, the govt leaders are misreporting the Covid19 deaths to the high side.

And CNN still reporting 65,000+ deaths?

 

[Guy2013]

I think that anyone who believes this is some great conspiracy is giving governments far too much credit. Most levels of government can barely orchestrate the tasks that they are charged with, never mind coordinating with other governments to pull off a world wide conspiracy.

 

[EnjoyingLife]

I think that anyone who believes this is some great conspiracy is giving governments far too much credit. Most levels of government can barely orchestrate the tasks that they are charged with, never mind coordinating with other governments to pull off a world wide conspiracy.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks with Bill and Melinda Gates

Today, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke with Bill and Melinda Gates to discuss the latest developments regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. Prime Minister Trudeau thanked Bill and Melinda Gates for their leadership, and for the strong support of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in mobilizing...

pm.gc.ca

people like you are still asleep. Read it from the government's website and Justin Trudeau. They are all working together, or at least trying to.

 

[Guy2013]

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks with Bill and Melinda Gates

Today, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke with Bill and Melinda Gates to discuss the latest developments regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. Prime Minister Trudeau thanked Bill and Melinda Gates for their leadership, and for the strong support of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in mobilizing...

pm.gc.ca

people like you are still asleep. Read it from the government's website and Justin Trudeau. They are all working together, or at least trying to.

Let me guess, they are the same group that faked the moon landings and performed the alien autopsies at Area 51

 

[Rubmegood]

Let me guess, they are the same group that faked the moon landings and performed the alien autopsies at Area 51

Don't forget chem-trails...