has anyone worked with heidi's fabulous fatigue fighter's?

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Just curious about your experiance. I'm researching different national oncall services. HFFF comes up often...
thanks
 


Welcome to the board, Kezza.
If you are just researching, that is fine, but wondering why you didn't mention any other oncall services you have "researched"?

(A friendly reminder that spamming is not allowed on this board, and business owners/affiliates that come on the board to advertise while "pretending" to be a third party is quite frowned upon).

I invite you to post an intro in our introductions section.
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=46
boofdorf
 


What is a national oncall service? And what is HFFFFFFF?
 


I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK
 


I found heidi's site, heidi sez lots of stuff. Kind of hard to really find out what the gist is, the site is that bad.

I'd rather work for R&R or Stress Recess than Heidi and her FFFFFFFFFFF.
 


StressSolutions said:
I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK

Happy Birthday, Mick! And if google is the old fashioned way of doing research, you are not old enough to be grumpy about your age!!! :wink:
 


Oh, that old-fashioned way is how I found the website, too, Mick. I just didn't want to post it here, especially since our original poster hasn't clarified if this is something they are actually interested in or is someone connected with the company trying to do some advertising. :roll:
 


Can you give us some more information on what you are looking for?
 


Kezza,
I have worked with Heidi's many, many times while living in the South. Basically, it's a chair outcall service for concert venues. I did chair massage backseforum.xxxe for many bands from Tommy Lee to the 'Down on the Mountain' Bluegrass Tour (the bands that performed on the "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" soundtrack). Yes, you would be surprised at the number of musicians that want chair massage backseforum.xxxe. The next day, you call her and tell her how much you made and she asks for a certain % (which is low in my opinion).

The downside was she (or her secretary) usually calls the day or the day before the event. YOU take the money ($1 per minute) and sometimes the bands didn't want chair massage because it's offered (at their request) at every venue that can supply one.

The upside is that when you make money, it's pretty good. For example, once I made $500 (including tips) and all Heidi wanted from that is $70 and I was only there about 5 hours. Also, if you enjoy some of the bands, you get free backseforum.xxxe access and to hear the concert for free as well!

I personally liked Heidi (although some I've heard had problems with her). Mostly, I made good money but there was one show where I made $20 in 5 hours, so you just can't tell.

It isn't guaranteed, but if you got the extra time and enjoy doing chair massage, it may be just up your alley.
 
not the best multi tasker this week...

I posted a quickie as I was running out the door! I started researching for several reasons.
1. lately i've noticed a surge in recruiting therapists for what seems to be on site franchises (for lack of a better term) and/or lmt networks. "spa chicks on the go", heidi's fabulous fatigue fighters ffff.... and so on
2.I travel, good to have options...
3 I'm relocating next month...
I hope this validates my origional post

I'm interested in hearing other mt's experiences, pro's/cons, recomendations and advice.
I wonder about legalities and quality control. Some places were ready to send me out without ever asking for a resume, references or even proof of school! How scary is that? Get's ya thinkin'!
I'm open to any and all opinions.

and yes, i too am a crap speller and pretty much always give up on my grammer half way through
thanks for reading
kezza
p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045
 


"p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045"

If you're interested in any & all opinions/input, you might be interested in his too. He is a moderator on this forum, and is simply looking out for the best interest here.

jill/sagetherapist
 
lost in translation..

If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?
 


Kezza, don't worry about the boys above... they are just joking around about eachother... plus your post did need a little more information from the start, now hopefully you will get your answers, and welcome to the board!!!

Someone had just e-mailed me about my past post on "Heidi" so this was my response to them... and yes, no resume required... as well as other things see below... as far as I was concerned it was my you know what on the line not hers...

I am going to be very honest with you, even though I don't know you, but hopefully I am sticking up for all massage therapists out there. If you also noticed on that post, I took the conversation off line for privacy. The reason being, I worked for a woman named "Heidi" no last name, only a phone number. She never explained the "deal" to me previous to the event. I was fresh out of school and not licensed yet, but able to work in NJ (no requirements at the time), not NY. I did one event for her in NJ, that was my first and last, due to the disrespect she had for her therapists. She wanted me at the event at 5 PM, a place that was over an hour away, didn't tell me that I was only expecting 1 client who I massaged on my table for 30 minutes, I ended up getting 2 other 30 minute massages. I then waited till the concert was over, more than 5 hours later, not knowing that I shouldn't have stayed that long, had to then drive another 2 hours to get home because of the horrible road conditions. She then continued to call me repeatedly to get me to work at venues in NYC, which every time she called I told her, I don't have my license and will not be working anywhere in NY until I do. She then wanted a huge perceneforum.xxxe of my income from that 1 event, including what was tipped beyond her $1 per minute rate, which is well below the going rate in NYC metro area. I ended up making about $5-10 per hour after her cut. So in the end, never deal with this woman and hopefully she has realized that she needs to lose my phone number.

Oh and another problem I had with her, is that I needed to get a babysitter, and she kept wanting to know at that point in time if I would do the job, I would tell her this, call her back, and sorry we got someone else to do it... especially when she would call the day of, or the day before... and expect me to be available at her beck and call.

My suggestion is, go to http://www.amtamassage.org they have a locator service for massage therapists. Type in the Zip code of the venue and limit it to find someone who does chair massage. Call the therapist directly and make a deal with them, believe me you both will be a lot happier in the end. Don't work through one of these services unless you have been referred to one of them and then even so be leery.
 
thanks muriel

Wow. How awkward for you! I'm suprised someone can get away with running such a business. I guess if there is such a lack of regulating, you can pass anyone off as an mt. How strict are the laws in your state, as far as accredited programs, minimum liscensing requirments, and hiring processes? What did u think about the massage school you went to?
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
So, what type of practice do you have? Do you do much outcall chairwork?
Thanks again for your post.
-kezza
 
lost in translation..

kezza said:
If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?

Hi Kezza,

I'm quite happy to find out you are genuinely interested in finding out about this topic as an interested MT, and sincerely apologize if my response hit you poorly. I would have to use all my fingers, toes, and most of my winter glove fingers to count the # of business/product owners that have come on the board saying "Gee, has anyone checked out the new Flimflam Massage Oil with genuine Dirty Sock Aromatherapy Concentrate? I hear it's great!!!" It is, 99% of the time, the first and only post they make on the board. (StressSolutions & Seforum.xxxgnant have also been around long enough to see dozens of those kind of posts, as well.)

That's why I invited you to post an introduction of yourself in the introduction's section, so we could see that you are an actual MT and not one of those said spammers.

I hope you get the information on this company that you are seeking and continue to join us in this community of MT's.

Sincerely, boofdorf
 


Kezza -

I live in NY, but work in NJ. NY requires a license, 1000 hours plus exam. At the time, I had the National Certificaiton and 600 hours. NJ is only starting to get the idea that they need regulation on Massage.

Heidi didn't care as long as you had hands and the equipment. Because she was annonymous as far as I knew... a first name and a cell phone number. So nothing could be traced back to her. I actually sat there for 2 hours waiting for no one to come because they had me set up in this back room with no posibility to walk by.

Now I primarily do pain relief work, and only use my chair when absolutely necessary. Mainly for demo's and health fairs. I prefer not to use it to make money. I can do 8 hours of table massage vs. 1 hour of chair...
 
thanks muriel

kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.
 
thanks muriel

RelaxandRejuvenate said:
kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.

While I think this is a very interesting question that might have an interesting answer, since kezza hasn't been here for the last 5yrs, we may have a bit of a wait... :undecided:

;)
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683/905.886.9993 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธManiac Monday Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Young Lovely Lori, New girl Kelly, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Take advantage of New 4 hands Duo Promo 30 mins for only $70. BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) or BUY 5 HOURS (GET 6 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS MAGICAL MIA OR YOUNG LORI**
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair friendly Mina,strong to relaxing oil massage,back walking,hot stone,get a lot massage experience ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage w
  37. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day, Young Cute Chinese Jesse, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAntonela๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Golden Flower Spa:
  40. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  41. Pink Flower Spa:
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & New Girl Mimi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, KELLY & MIA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. MIA
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLily๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธVivianCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today.Young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella and young student Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage,pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMONICA, PAOLA, SASHA, ASHA, MONIKA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SONIA, NISHA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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