has anyone worked with heidi's fabulous fatigue fighter's?

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Just curious about your experiance. I'm researching different national oncall services. HFFF comes up often...
thanks
 


Welcome to the board, Kezza.
If you are just researching, that is fine, but wondering why you didn't mention any other oncall services you have "researched"?

(A friendly reminder that spamming is not allowed on this board, and business owners/affiliates that come on the board to advertise while "pretending" to be a third party is quite frowned upon).

I invite you to post an intro in our introductions section.
http://www.massageplanet.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=46
boofdorf
 


What is a national oncall service? And what is HFFFFFFF?
 


I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK
 


I found heidi's site, heidi sez lots of stuff. Kind of hard to really find out what the gist is, the site is that bad.

I'd rather work for R&R or Stress Recess than Heidi and her FFFFFFFFFFF.
 


StressSolutions said:
I'm probably just grumpy cause I'm older today than I was yesterday, but that reallly doesn't clear up anything for me. I'll have to do it the old fashioned way, google. happy birthday to me. :smt113 :smt114
6 months till Christmas. MK

Happy Birthday, Mick! And if google is the old fashioned way of doing research, you are not old enough to be grumpy about your age!!! :wink:
 


Oh, that old-fashioned way is how I found the website, too, Mick. I just didn't want to post it here, especially since our original poster hasn't clarified if this is something they are actually interested in or is someone connected with the company trying to do some advertising. :roll:
 


Can you give us some more information on what you are looking for?
 


Kezza,
I have worked with Heidi's many, many times while living in the South. Basically, it's a chair outcall service for concert venues. I did chair massage backseforum.xxxe for many bands from Tommy Lee to the 'Down on the Mountain' Bluegrass Tour (the bands that performed on the "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" soundtrack). Yes, you would be surprised at the number of musicians that want chair massage backseforum.xxxe. The next day, you call her and tell her how much you made and she asks for a certain % (which is low in my opinion).

The downside was she (or her secretary) usually calls the day or the day before the event. YOU take the money ($1 per minute) and sometimes the bands didn't want chair massage because it's offered (at their request) at every venue that can supply one.

The upside is that when you make money, it's pretty good. For example, once I made $500 (including tips) and all Heidi wanted from that is $70 and I was only there about 5 hours. Also, if you enjoy some of the bands, you get free backseforum.xxxe access and to hear the concert for free as well!

I personally liked Heidi (although some I've heard had problems with her). Mostly, I made good money but there was one show where I made $20 in 5 hours, so you just can't tell.

It isn't guaranteed, but if you got the extra time and enjoy doing chair massage, it may be just up your alley.
 
not the best multi tasker this week...

I posted a quickie as I was running out the door! I started researching for several reasons.
1. lately i've noticed a surge in recruiting therapists for what seems to be on site franchises (for lack of a better term) and/or lmt networks. "spa chicks on the go", heidi's fabulous fatigue fighters ffff.... and so on
2.I travel, good to have options...
3 I'm relocating next month...
I hope this validates my origional post

I'm interested in hearing other mt's experiences, pro's/cons, recomendations and advice.
I wonder about legalities and quality control. Some places were ready to send me out without ever asking for a resume, references or even proof of school! How scary is that? Get's ya thinkin'!
I'm open to any and all opinions.

and yes, i too am a crap speller and pretty much always give up on my grammer half way through
thanks for reading
kezza
p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045
 


"p.s. Hey Boofdorf, chillout :smt045"

If you're interested in any & all opinions/input, you might be interested in his too. He is a moderator on this forum, and is simply looking out for the best interest here.

jill/sagetherapist
 
lost in translation..

If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?
 


Kezza, don't worry about the boys above... they are just joking around about eachother... plus your post did need a little more information from the start, now hopefully you will get your answers, and welcome to the board!!!

Someone had just e-mailed me about my past post on "Heidi" so this was my response to them... and yes, no resume required... as well as other things see below... as far as I was concerned it was my you know what on the line not hers...

I am going to be very honest with you, even though I don't know you, but hopefully I am sticking up for all massage therapists out there. If you also noticed on that post, I took the conversation off line for privacy. The reason being, I worked for a woman named "Heidi" no last name, only a phone number. She never explained the "deal" to me previous to the event. I was fresh out of school and not licensed yet, but able to work in NJ (no requirements at the time), not NY. I did one event for her in NJ, that was my first and last, due to the disrespect she had for her therapists. She wanted me at the event at 5 PM, a place that was over an hour away, didn't tell me that I was only expecting 1 client who I massaged on my table for 30 minutes, I ended up getting 2 other 30 minute massages. I then waited till the concert was over, more than 5 hours later, not knowing that I shouldn't have stayed that long, had to then drive another 2 hours to get home because of the horrible road conditions. She then continued to call me repeatedly to get me to work at venues in NYC, which every time she called I told her, I don't have my license and will not be working anywhere in NY until I do. She then wanted a huge perceneforum.xxxe of my income from that 1 event, including what was tipped beyond her $1 per minute rate, which is well below the going rate in NYC metro area. I ended up making about $5-10 per hour after her cut. So in the end, never deal with this woman and hopefully she has realized that she needs to lose my phone number.

Oh and another problem I had with her, is that I needed to get a babysitter, and she kept wanting to know at that point in time if I would do the job, I would tell her this, call her back, and sorry we got someone else to do it... especially when she would call the day of, or the day before... and expect me to be available at her beck and call.

My suggestion is, go to http://www.amtamassage.org they have a locator service for massage therapists. Type in the Zip code of the venue and limit it to find someone who does chair massage. Call the therapist directly and make a deal with them, believe me you both will be a lot happier in the end. Don't work through one of these services unless you have been referred to one of them and then even so be leery.
 
thanks muriel

Wow. How awkward for you! I'm suprised someone can get away with running such a business. I guess if there is such a lack of regulating, you can pass anyone off as an mt. How strict are the laws in your state, as far as accredited programs, minimum liscensing requirments, and hiring processes? What did u think about the massage school you went to?
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
So, what type of practice do you have? Do you do much outcall chairwork?
Thanks again for your post.
-kezza
 
lost in translation..

kezza said:
If you think my chillout statement meant that I reject boofdorf, then i apologize. but what u said is a bit much, don't you think? i'm sure he recognizes a little playful sarcasm.
Believe me, shameless spammer's who pollute and dillute quality forums should be called out on there shady opportunistic ways.
I was shocked at the immediate pounce followed by the "talk to the hand" vibe.
happy?

Hi Kezza,

I'm quite happy to find out you are genuinely interested in finding out about this topic as an interested MT, and sincerely apologize if my response hit you poorly. I would have to use all my fingers, toes, and most of my winter glove fingers to count the # of business/product owners that have come on the board saying "Gee, has anyone checked out the new Flimflam Massage Oil with genuine Dirty Sock Aromatherapy Concentrate? I hear it's great!!!" It is, 99% of the time, the first and only post they make on the board. (StressSolutions & Seforum.xxxgnant have also been around long enough to see dozens of those kind of posts, as well.)

That's why I invited you to post an introduction of yourself in the introduction's section, so we could see that you are an actual MT and not one of those said spammers.

I hope you get the information on this company that you are seeking and continue to join us in this community of MT's.

Sincerely, boofdorf
 


Kezza -

I live in NY, but work in NJ. NY requires a license, 1000 hours plus exam. At the time, I had the National Certificaiton and 600 hours. NJ is only starting to get the idea that they need regulation on Massage.

Heidi didn't care as long as you had hands and the equipment. Because she was annonymous as far as I knew... a first name and a cell phone number. So nothing could be traced back to her. I actually sat there for 2 hours waiting for no one to come because they had me set up in this back room with no posibility to walk by.

Now I primarily do pain relief work, and only use my chair when absolutely necessary. Mainly for demo's and health fairs. I prefer not to use it to make money. I can do 8 hours of table massage vs. 1 hour of chair...
 
thanks muriel

kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.
 
thanks muriel

RelaxandRejuvenate said:
kezza said:
I went to school in SF. It was wonderful and halfass all at once! I probably was too at that time. ha ha..
-kezza


Your profile says you are in NYC. How did you get your NYS license? Not a single school in CA has a 1,000 program, and no one in the bay area is over 700.

While I think this is a very interesting question that might have an interesting answer, since kezza hasn't been here for the last 5yrs, we may have a bit of a wait... :undecided:

;)
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage with Rel
  29. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  30. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Young sweet student Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and young pretty Michelle 25โ€™s open mind,fun sexy Yoyo 36DD with curve body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  31. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elegance
  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธJenny , sexy girl 1.60 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Suki deep massage Big Boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  33. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Natalie filipina mixed girl Sami Vietnamese โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  34. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and water works
  35. DareDevil:
    JUST RELAX WELLNESS: 160 EAST BEAVER CREEK RD #17, RICHMOND HILL, Tel(905) 707 5877 Website:Just Relax Wellness Centre โ™ฅ๏ธ GTA'S most Prestigiousโ™ฅ๏ธ. 7 Well trained girls working today: Nancy, Shirley, Sasa, Cici, Eliza, Anna and TIna . Promo: COMBO SPECIAL 30MIN FOOT+60MIN BODY ONLY $80
  36. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Saturday April 5, 2025, our attendants will be Opal, Vicky, Lucy, Ivy and Sophie Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    For Friday April 4, 2025, our attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ and Christina ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at (905) 479-6668 to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham, ON, Canada!
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Friday happy weekend ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…joey is very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair Vietnamese Amy open maid,everything she can do,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683/905.886.9993 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Hottie Hattie, Lovely Tina, Young Lori, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ** PICK OF THE DAY IS Hattie**
  40. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธ Malaysia girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage w
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAntonela๐ŸŒธMya๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. Golden Flower Spa:
  45. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. APPLE (12:30pm-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs
  46. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  47. Pink Flower Spa:
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PRIYA, AMMU, MONIKA, PAOLA, SASHA, AMANDA, SUMMER, ANGEL, ANGELINA, DIYA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Young sweet Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and new young pretty student Chloe 25โ€™s,fun sex Tina with curve body open mind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
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