J&J Massage

Figure I'd bump this. They are back to their old ways. I've gone a few times this past month and things were exactly like they used to be. They have a new girl that used to work at Labella's. Horrible masseuse, clearly not trained but pretty and will give extra on the flip.
 
Followed up my terrible massage at Summer's old place (Healing Massage),
And got an above average massage at Jj's.

Its been a long time since I've been at this place, and I always got the larger middle room. This time, I got the back room, connected to a small storage space full of stuff, and a full curtain blocking the view.
This room is beside the staff room, which meant there was some chatter I could hear at the beginning.

My lady went by Lisa: petite, curvy and cute girl, early thirties, maybe even late twenties. She's not slim, but she is in great shape, with my favourite body type. She wore nice fitting lululemons, and a tight top. Likely a B cup, but seemed to be wearing a push up, making them look like a C cup. The massage is the most important thing, but when the person is attractive, it is a nice bonus.

The massage had me concerned at first, because she seemed to be just running her hands up and down. But, she actually was trying to find the bad areas and knots. It was an excellent back, arms, legs, head and feet massage: blending strong medium pressure and relaxation swedish. She spent a lot of quality time, trying to get those knots out. So, I wasn't as dissapointed that little time was spent on the front.

As far as the fun stuff goes: that question has already been answered. But, my conclusion is: her happy offerings seems to be similar to the Mandy that used to work there. But...sheesh....how do you guys afford it?

Lisa has moved on.
 
Amy/Lisa from O'Massage is working at Meridian (J&J's) now. She is going by the name "Tina".

She has got to be the hardest working masseuse I have ever had. Glad she stayed in the South Side.
 
Ummm... ok I'm a bit shy. What can I say to her? What are the extras?

Ppl are always shy when you first try this, but the ladies work there everyday, and they know what to expect from a male client. If you donโ€™t bring it up, some ladies will ask you, but some will not even bother you. So you have to tell the girl what you want at latest after you flip or the last 15 minutes. Just say extra or happy ending.
 
For most of the ladies the universal sign that you're expecting more is to just lay on the table naked. Put the drape on- it means "no thank you".
I find most of them just toss the towel off when I do use it.. maybe I give off a creeper vibe?!?! :unsure But I never have to ask so maybe thats a good thing lol
 
I find most of them just toss the towel off when I do use it.. maybe I give off a creeper vibe?!?! :unsure But I never have to ask so maybe thats a good thing lol

Same goes for me. But I always ask if undraping is ok. They mostly say YES , that a good sign
Also goes for touching after the massage starts . I always ask first. Again they mostly say YES , another a good sign
 
Ummm... ok I'm a bit shy. What can I say to her? What are the extras?
1. Assuming you are going to a well known place, like J&J, the chances of being rejected is next to zero; if you are exploring a new place, asking first is a good thing.
2. As Rub suggested, leave the towel off
3. I would be shocked if the lady does not ask how you would like the job finished but if she does not simply ask politely for a happy ending or gently guide her hand towards when you would like her to massage. Unfortunately that inevitably start the uncomfortable part with her saying "How Much"
 
1. Assuming you are going to a well known place, like J&J, the chances of being rejected is next to zero; if you are exploring a new place, asking first is a good thing.
2. As Rub suggested, leave the towel off
3. I would be shocked if the lady does not ask how you would like the job finished but if she does not simply ask politely for a happy ending or gently guide her hand towards when you would like her to massage. Unfortunately that inevitably start the uncomfortable part with her saying "How Much"

Always stick to your guns on the price. I've gone as low as $20 and never as high as $40 and it was still accepted. The only difference is they have a sad face when they give you a HE.
 
Personally, I never grind a provider on pricing, no matter what the item of discussion is. I either accept, or decline.
Iโ€™m 100% with you on this, after all what kind of actual attention do you get, a disinterested jackhammer and rush out the door?
Pay what is asked or donโ€™t. Find ladies in your budget but negotiating is sleazy, sad, and disrespectful!
 
Personally, I never grind a provider on pricing, no matter what the item of discussion is. I either accept, or decline.
I state what I am willing to pay and they can take it or leave it. To lesson the negotiation so it doesn't become a grind I will simply state something like "I only have $40 on me" that gives them the option to take it or leave it and gives them the choice to decide.
 
I state what I am willing to pay and they can take it or leave it. To lesson the negotiation so it doesn't become a grind I will simply state something like "I only have $40 on me" that gives them the option to take it or leave it and gives them the choice to decide.

Yeah, $40 should be the max payed for a regular HE unless there is extra stuff involved. To many guys get hypnotised after some teasing and just pay some ridiculous price. Guys need to remember that we set the rates. Thats why you see ladies here charging $160+ for a basic massage and HE.
 
Although I agree with some of what is said, there seems to be a misconception or maybe assumption that a โ€œBasic Massage and HEโ€ may or not include topless or fully nude at a $40 tip. Hearing this upsets me, but then again to some they gain as much satisfaction winning a negotiation or suckering the ladies with the โ€œthatโ€™s all I broughtโ€ comment as they do with the HE.
To be honest that sort of treatment generally provides me better service, more options, and a very appreciative masseuse. I pay what is asked, many times a bit more, and more than often receive better treatment because I respect what the lady feels sheโ€™s worth. But then thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m there for. If all you want is a jackhammer finish from a disinterested lady, then be my guest.
 
Although I agree with some of what is said, there seems to be a misconception or maybe assumption that a โ€œBasic Massage and HEโ€ may or not include topless or fully nude at a $40 tip. Hearing this upsets me, but then again to some they gain as much satisfaction winning a negotiation or suckering the ladies with the โ€œthatโ€™s all I broughtโ€ comment as they do with the HE.
To be honest that sort of treatment generally provides me better service, more options, and a very appreciative masseuse. I pay what is asked, many times a bit more, and more than often receive better treatment because I respect what the lady feels sheโ€™s worth. But then thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m there for. If all you want is a jackhammer finish from a disinterested lady, then be my guest.
Just looking for clarification but where do you see that some guys are expecting a basic massage to include topless or fully nude?
Am I missing something?
 
Just looking for clarification but where do you see that some guys are expecting a basic massage to include topless or fully nude?
Am I missing something?
Experience Son! Reading between the lines, and countless PMโ€™s from members.
Iโ€™ve been to almost every place reviewed here, seen countless ladies, and have only been asked to pay more than $40 extra on a fully clothed basic massage and HE twice, and both times well worth the extra.
Even if I was the negotiating type, thereโ€™d be no need if all that was requested was a fully clothed massage and HE, as the asking has always been $40 or they were quite happy when thatโ€™s what I gave them if a price wasnโ€™t discussed beforehand. Itโ€™s when under clothes touching, topless, nude, etc are requested does the price go up, justifiably so.
I canโ€™t believe this conversation keeps going on and on from post to post. This isnโ€™t an objective service industry. Essentially the ladies who offer HE and more are by definition, sex workers. And anyone who partakes with the various range of said industry already know, a lady will charge and provide what she feels comfortable with.
This isnโ€™t an Indian Bazaar, swap meet, or pawn shop. The only person you are doing a disservice to when you negotiate with a SW is you, as you likely wonโ€™t receive the care and attention afforded to those that pay what is asked, or walk when the expectation is higher than your budget.
I donโ€™t know why this is so hard to understand. But as I said, those that do negotiate, just ensure us that donโ€™t get a happier and more attentive ending.
 
Experience Son! Reading between the lines, and countless PMโ€™s from members.
Iโ€™ve been to almost every place reviewed here, seen countless ladies, and have only been asked to pay more than $40 extra on a fully clothed basic massage and HE twice, and both times well worth the extra.
Even if I was the negotiating type, thereโ€™d be no need if all that was requested was a fully clothed massage and HE, as the asking has always been $40 or they were quite happy when thatโ€™s what I gave them if a price wasnโ€™t discussed beforehand. Itโ€™s when under clothes touching, topless, nude, etc are requested does the price go up, justifiably so.
I canโ€™t believe this conversation keeps going on and on from post to post. This isnโ€™t an objective service industry. Essentially the ladies who offer HE and more are by definition, sex workers. And anyone who partakes with the various range of said industry already know, a lady will charge and provide what she feels comfortable with.
This isnโ€™t an Indian Bazaar, swap meet, or pawn shop. The only person you are doing a disservice to when you negotiate with a SW is you, as you likely wonโ€™t receive the care and attention afforded to those that pay what is asked, or walk when the expectation is higher than your budget.
I donโ€™t know why this is so hard to understand. But as I said, those that do negotiate, just ensure us that donโ€™t get a happier and more attentive ending.

That's fine that you aren't the negotiating type, some are and some aren't I just fail to see why you took the conversation down a negative track?
The fact you have experience through PMs and such shouldn't play into effect here because people weren't saying they expected FS for $40.
This is the very definition of an objective industry! There are so many different variables beyond just price and both parties can choose to accept or decline.
Your comment came across as a bit combative and not sure if you meant it that way
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair very young beautiful Lily ,friendly smile,,slim body back. Walk,hot stone,cupping ,more experience โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ,must try
  35. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, PAOLA, ASHA, ANGELINA, SONIA, SALMA, MEGAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  42. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Funlooker:
    Introducing Funlooker - We are a high-class escort agency representing extremely beautiful, passionate, intelligent and sexual girls in Bangkok, Barcelona, Berlin, China, Kuala Lumpur, London, New York, Paris and Tokyo - funlooker.co
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bobo๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธAn alluring and skilled new massage girl with an elegant presence and a warm, inviting aura. Her striking figure, accentuated by her graceful posture and her massive 36DD breasts, immediately puts clients at ease.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks 36DD open mind and young student Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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