J&J Massage

Figure I'd bump this. They are back to their old ways. I've gone a few times this past month and things were exactly like they used to be. They have a new girl that used to work at Labella's. Horrible masseuse, clearly not trained but pretty and will give extra on the flip.
 
Followed up my terrible massage at Summer's old place (Healing Massage),
And got an above average massage at Jj's.

Its been a long time since I've been at this place, and I always got the larger middle room. This time, I got the back room, connected to a small storage space full of stuff, and a full curtain blocking the view.
This room is beside the staff room, which meant there was some chatter I could hear at the beginning.

My lady went by Lisa: petite, curvy and cute girl, early thirties, maybe even late twenties. She's not slim, but she is in great shape, with my favourite body type. She wore nice fitting lululemons, and a tight top. Likely a B cup, but seemed to be wearing a push up, making them look like a C cup. The massage is the most important thing, but when the person is attractive, it is a nice bonus.

The massage had me concerned at first, because she seemed to be just running her hands up and down. But, she actually was trying to find the bad areas and knots. It was an excellent back, arms, legs, head and feet massage: blending strong medium pressure and relaxation swedish. She spent a lot of quality time, trying to get those knots out. So, I wasn't as dissapointed that little time was spent on the front.

As far as the fun stuff goes: that question has already been answered. But, my conclusion is: her happy offerings seems to be similar to the Mandy that used to work there. But...sheesh....how do you guys afford it?

Lisa has moved on.
 
Amy/Lisa from O'Massage is working at Meridian (J&J's) now. She is going by the name "Tina".

She has got to be the hardest working masseuse I have ever had. Glad she stayed in the South Side.
 
Ummm... ok I'm a bit shy. What can I say to her? What are the extras?

Ppl are always shy when you first try this, but the ladies work there everyday, and they know what to expect from a male client. If you donโ€™t bring it up, some ladies will ask you, but some will not even bother you. So you have to tell the girl what you want at latest after you flip or the last 15 minutes. Just say extra or happy ending.
 
For most of the ladies the universal sign that you're expecting more is to just lay on the table naked. Put the drape on- it means "no thank you".
I find most of them just toss the towel off when I do use it.. maybe I give off a creeper vibe?!?! :unsure But I never have to ask so maybe thats a good thing lol
 
I find most of them just toss the towel off when I do use it.. maybe I give off a creeper vibe?!?! :unsure But I never have to ask so maybe thats a good thing lol

Same goes for me. But I always ask if undraping is ok. They mostly say YES , that a good sign
Also goes for touching after the massage starts . I always ask first. Again they mostly say YES , another a good sign
 
Ummm... ok I'm a bit shy. What can I say to her? What are the extras?
1. Assuming you are going to a well known place, like J&J, the chances of being rejected is next to zero; if you are exploring a new place, asking first is a good thing.
2. As Rub suggested, leave the towel off
3. I would be shocked if the lady does not ask how you would like the job finished but if she does not simply ask politely for a happy ending or gently guide her hand towards when you would like her to massage. Unfortunately that inevitably start the uncomfortable part with her saying "How Much"
 
1. Assuming you are going to a well known place, like J&J, the chances of being rejected is next to zero; if you are exploring a new place, asking first is a good thing.
2. As Rub suggested, leave the towel off
3. I would be shocked if the lady does not ask how you would like the job finished but if she does not simply ask politely for a happy ending or gently guide her hand towards when you would like her to massage. Unfortunately that inevitably start the uncomfortable part with her saying "How Much"

Always stick to your guns on the price. I've gone as low as $20 and never as high as $40 and it was still accepted. The only difference is they have a sad face when they give you a HE.
 
Personally, I never grind a provider on pricing, no matter what the item of discussion is. I either accept, or decline.
Iโ€™m 100% with you on this, after all what kind of actual attention do you get, a disinterested jackhammer and rush out the door?
Pay what is asked or donโ€™t. Find ladies in your budget but negotiating is sleazy, sad, and disrespectful!
 
Personally, I never grind a provider on pricing, no matter what the item of discussion is. I either accept, or decline.
I state what I am willing to pay and they can take it or leave it. To lesson the negotiation so it doesn't become a grind I will simply state something like "I only have $40 on me" that gives them the option to take it or leave it and gives them the choice to decide.
 
I state what I am willing to pay and they can take it or leave it. To lesson the negotiation so it doesn't become a grind I will simply state something like "I only have $40 on me" that gives them the option to take it or leave it and gives them the choice to decide.

Yeah, $40 should be the max payed for a regular HE unless there is extra stuff involved. To many guys get hypnotised after some teasing and just pay some ridiculous price. Guys need to remember that we set the rates. Thats why you see ladies here charging $160+ for a basic massage and HE.
 
Although I agree with some of what is said, there seems to be a misconception or maybe assumption that a โ€œBasic Massage and HEโ€ may or not include topless or fully nude at a $40 tip. Hearing this upsets me, but then again to some they gain as much satisfaction winning a negotiation or suckering the ladies with the โ€œthatโ€™s all I broughtโ€ comment as they do with the HE.
To be honest that sort of treatment generally provides me better service, more options, and a very appreciative masseuse. I pay what is asked, many times a bit more, and more than often receive better treatment because I respect what the lady feels sheโ€™s worth. But then thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m there for. If all you want is a jackhammer finish from a disinterested lady, then be my guest.
 
Although I agree with some of what is said, there seems to be a misconception or maybe assumption that a โ€œBasic Massage and HEโ€ may or not include topless or fully nude at a $40 tip. Hearing this upsets me, but then again to some they gain as much satisfaction winning a negotiation or suckering the ladies with the โ€œthatโ€™s all I broughtโ€ comment as they do with the HE.
To be honest that sort of treatment generally provides me better service, more options, and a very appreciative masseuse. I pay what is asked, many times a bit more, and more than often receive better treatment because I respect what the lady feels sheโ€™s worth. But then thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m there for. If all you want is a jackhammer finish from a disinterested lady, then be my guest.
Just looking for clarification but where do you see that some guys are expecting a basic massage to include topless or fully nude?
Am I missing something?
 
Just looking for clarification but where do you see that some guys are expecting a basic massage to include topless or fully nude?
Am I missing something?
Experience Son! Reading between the lines, and countless PMโ€™s from members.
Iโ€™ve been to almost every place reviewed here, seen countless ladies, and have only been asked to pay more than $40 extra on a fully clothed basic massage and HE twice, and both times well worth the extra.
Even if I was the negotiating type, thereโ€™d be no need if all that was requested was a fully clothed massage and HE, as the asking has always been $40 or they were quite happy when thatโ€™s what I gave them if a price wasnโ€™t discussed beforehand. Itโ€™s when under clothes touching, topless, nude, etc are requested does the price go up, justifiably so.
I canโ€™t believe this conversation keeps going on and on from post to post. This isnโ€™t an objective service industry. Essentially the ladies who offer HE and more are by definition, sex workers. And anyone who partakes with the various range of said industry already know, a lady will charge and provide what she feels comfortable with.
This isnโ€™t an Indian Bazaar, swap meet, or pawn shop. The only person you are doing a disservice to when you negotiate with a SW is you, as you likely wonโ€™t receive the care and attention afforded to those that pay what is asked, or walk when the expectation is higher than your budget.
I donโ€™t know why this is so hard to understand. But as I said, those that do negotiate, just ensure us that donโ€™t get a happier and more attentive ending.
 
Experience Son! Reading between the lines, and countless PMโ€™s from members.
Iโ€™ve been to almost every place reviewed here, seen countless ladies, and have only been asked to pay more than $40 extra on a fully clothed basic massage and HE twice, and both times well worth the extra.
Even if I was the negotiating type, thereโ€™d be no need if all that was requested was a fully clothed massage and HE, as the asking has always been $40 or they were quite happy when thatโ€™s what I gave them if a price wasnโ€™t discussed beforehand. Itโ€™s when under clothes touching, topless, nude, etc are requested does the price go up, justifiably so.
I canโ€™t believe this conversation keeps going on and on from post to post. This isnโ€™t an objective service industry. Essentially the ladies who offer HE and more are by definition, sex workers. And anyone who partakes with the various range of said industry already know, a lady will charge and provide what she feels comfortable with.
This isnโ€™t an Indian Bazaar, swap meet, or pawn shop. The only person you are doing a disservice to when you negotiate with a SW is you, as you likely wonโ€™t receive the care and attention afforded to those that pay what is asked, or walk when the expectation is higher than your budget.
I donโ€™t know why this is so hard to understand. But as I said, those that do negotiate, just ensure us that donโ€™t get a happier and more attentive ending.

That's fine that you aren't the negotiating type, some are and some aren't I just fail to see why you took the conversation down a negative track?
The fact you have experience through PMs and such shouldn't play into effect here because people weren't saying they expected FS for $40.
This is the very definition of an objective industry! There are so many different variables beyond just price and both parties can choose to accept or decline.
Your comment came across as a bit combative and not sure if you meant it that way
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses with
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธCamila๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAntonela Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Vicky,Mia,Ella and Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LISA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LISA is a cute & petite Thai/Chinese mixed beauty with decent massage skills and liberal services.
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Niko and Kiki work
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