Chat Moments of apparent clarity

It sounds like you can relate. Our busy brains keep our lives and incomes going, but they can interfere with enjoying simple pleasures.
Interfere.. sometimes. But usually, the MPA, has every answer. Just depends on the mpa.
 
I had my moment of clarity when I was doggying a well-reviewed highly recommended SP. I went in expecting an angel but what I saw was an emotionally broken girl with a multiverse portal for a pussy. I pounded and pounded for 20 mins wishing for that sweet release while she fake-moaned with her face buried in the sheets. During this, I glanced at the mirror - two young sexy figures in the most intimate act, a scene for a classical painting perhaps, but emotionally on different continents. And that's when it hit me - I'm trying to satisfy my hunger with soda pop. It's never gonna fill me and nourish me and the hunger is gonna get worse and worse. Anyway, long story short, I fake-cummed and got tf outta there. And I've since lost any desire to see any MPA or SP

Sad but true. This made me that think that for lots of guys, all they have access to is the soda pop. Nobody chooses this intentionally!

That said, it's a lot better than living a sexually repressed lifestyle. So I agree with everything you said except the ending.... I still think guys should still see MPAs or SPs to satisfy their sexual impulse, but more important to recognize that it's not a substitute for an emotionally fullfilling sex life.
 
That is another valid point of view. In my life long experience, the jokes about the change in attitude of a woman toward sex and satisfying a partner often become reality once they have security locked in.
That is where the deviation from the monogamous life and marriage gets a foothold. Even some fake moans and a welcoming paid pussy are better that a scowl and repeated rejection.

If the gods smile on you and you meet a partner, even a professional that genuinely enjoys you and sex with you, its is fantastic.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
 
Perhaps the real issue is with Nature itself. We are compelled to procreate, whether or not that is good for us personally (for example unwanted pregnancy or toxic partners). And we are compelled to survive in the short term, whether or not the methods we use serve us personally in the long term (e.g. having a well paid job that we hate). Us older guys have resources but not desirable bodies. Vice-versa for sex workers. But we are all human beings with needs for validation, acceptance and community. Once our basic needs are met we anguish over higher needs. Some of us become cold blooded (I definitely experienced that with SWs in Amsterdam). Some of us get out of the paid sex scene. Some become friends with SWs or customers. I just try to enjoy the sex, but it is hard to not ruminate. But the fact that I do means my basic needs are being met, so that is a positive. The fairest negotiations leave both parties at least a little dissatisfied.
 
Your thinking about a different Chanel broski. The one useful is talking about is the same girl I called Coco. She started out at YI Ren back in 2019 for Michelle, then she worked again for Michelle when she purchased Candy Spa.
Coco/Chanel has a mother who suffers from schizophrenia, I fear Chanel also began exhibiting symptoms of it here in Canada. You hired her over at QQ spa for a while under the name Nikki.
And yes she is Taiwanese, but hasn't gone back to Taiwan since moving to Canada, her age would be about 24 now.
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
 
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
I just cringe tipping a girl that much. I have had great sex for less. But thats me.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
 
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
 
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True that. But they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Exactly.
 
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Agree to a point. But when a girl digs you a bit, it is fun.
 
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Ummโ€ฆ soโ€ฆ what, turn down the discounts & free xxxtras?

:lol

Nahโ€ฆ.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
 
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
Definite hobbying hazard.

Acceptable risk IMHO!

:)
 
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
I think I have a healthy relationship with my regulars. I treat them well, and they treat me well. Human moments do happen, and I value them, but only in the MP. I hobby for fun and adventure, not for love. If anyone has greater emotional needs than this they should get girlfriends.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธViennese ๐ŸŒธ Korean girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  33. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–HAPPY Friday!!!๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•36D Flora, Echo, Cici, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine & Aaliyah โ€” pamper yourself๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss
  34. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN (3PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
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