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It sounds like you can relate. Our busy brains keep our lives and incomes going, but they can interfere with enjoying simple pleasures.
Interfere.. sometimes. But usually, the MPA, has every answer. Just depends on the mpa.
 
I had my moment of clarity when I was doggying a well-reviewed highly recommended SP. I went in expecting an angel but what I saw was an emotionally broken girl with a multiverse portal for a pussy. I pounded and pounded for 20 mins wishing for that sweet release while she fake-moaned with her face buried in the sheets. During this, I glanced at the mirror - two young sexy figures in the most intimate act, a scene for a classical painting perhaps, but emotionally on different continents. And that's when it hit me - I'm trying to satisfy my hunger with soda pop. It's never gonna fill me and nourish me and the hunger is gonna get worse and worse. Anyway, long story short, I fake-cummed and got tf outta there. And I've since lost any desire to see any MPA or SP

Sad but true. This made me that think that for lots of guys, all they have access to is the soda pop. Nobody chooses this intentionally!

That said, it's a lot better than living a sexually repressed lifestyle. So I agree with everything you said except the ending.... I still think guys should still see MPAs or SPs to satisfy their sexual impulse, but more important to recognize that it's not a substitute for an emotionally fullfilling sex life.
 
That is another valid point of view. In my life long experience, the jokes about the change in attitude of a woman toward sex and satisfying a partner often become reality once they have security locked in.
That is where the deviation from the monogamous life and marriage gets a foothold. Even some fake moans and a welcoming paid pussy are better that a scowl and repeated rejection.

If the gods smile on you and you meet a partner, even a professional that genuinely enjoys you and sex with you, its is fantastic.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
 
Perhaps the real issue is with Nature itself. We are compelled to procreate, whether or not that is good for us personally (for example unwanted pregnancy or toxic partners). And we are compelled to survive in the short term, whether or not the methods we use serve us personally in the long term (e.g. having a well paid job that we hate). Us older guys have resources but not desirable bodies. Vice-versa for sex workers. But we are all human beings with needs for validation, acceptance and community. Once our basic needs are met we anguish over higher needs. Some of us become cold blooded (I definitely experienced that with SWs in Amsterdam). Some of us get out of the paid sex scene. Some become friends with SWs or customers. I just try to enjoy the sex, but it is hard to not ruminate. But the fact that I do means my basic needs are being met, so that is a positive. The fairest negotiations leave both parties at least a little dissatisfied.
 
Your thinking about a different Chanel broski. The one useful is talking about is the same girl I called Coco. She started out at YI Ren back in 2019 for Michelle, then she worked again for Michelle when she purchased Candy Spa.
Coco/Chanel has a mother who suffers from schizophrenia, I fear Chanel also began exhibiting symptoms of it here in Canada. You hired her over at QQ spa for a while under the name Nikki.
And yes she is Taiwanese, but hasn't gone back to Taiwan since moving to Canada, her age would be about 24 now.
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
 
I do not know why you guys are interested in who I saw, but if if helps these are the notes I took: "Taiwanese background, 5'8", slender, about 22, small breasts, beautiful, nice skin and bum. Friendly, low energy, sexy. Massage, tease, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, HJ. $50 room + $150 for extras". I saw her on 25July2020. Keep in mind I am not a good judge of height and age. And yes, I am a nerd who tracks a lot of things concerning my health and activities.

While I am here, in my last post I alluded to but did not mention Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs Theory
I just cringe tipping a girl that much. I have had great sex for less. But thats me.
 
No matter where, when and how one puts it, these girls are there to make money, period. Some are more natural to imitate intimacy, some even enjoy it to a degree, quite a few of them are really good at acting. No wonder itโ€™s the most ancient profession! But at the end of the day, all illusions aside, itโ€™s really only our cash that these women are after, and no amount of self persuasion will ever change that fact. There are really only four questions that one needs to be able to ask themselves before they go in: Who am I; where am I; why am I here; why do I need that. If you can ask yourself these and be fine with the answers, enjoy yourself and keep hobbying. Otherwise, move on to find another one, or youโ€™ll be in everlasting conflict with yourself.
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
 
A girl will give up cash if she doesnโ€™t like you, and will take less cash if she does like you. So more complicated then you imply.
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
 
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True that. But they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Exactly.
 
True that. But no, itโ€™s not complicated, itโ€™s a standard business practice. And they are still there for cash, whichever way you look at it, because they are at work. I myself have fired clients at work that I didnโ€™t like, even if it meant a temporary monetary loss, and gave discounts to the ones that I did, albeit to a very few of them. You often have to put on a mask. Itโ€™s just business. I need not to imply, Iโ€™m being rather straightforward.
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
 
For me it is like seeing a movie. Suspend disbelief when you are in the MP, return to reality when you leave. I do not need the MPA to have real feelings for me, just to treat me well. I do not believe anything they say but I appreciate it when they work hard to please me.
Agree to a point. But when a girl digs you a bit, it is fun.
 
It is because you said โ€these girls are there to make money, period.โ€

With that โ€œperiodโ€ , I disagree.
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Ummโ€ฆ soโ€ฆ what, turn down the discounts & free xxxtras?

:lol

Nahโ€ฆ.
 
We all go to work to make money, but there are definitely customers we like less or more. And no matter how professional one is at the job every pro is still human, so I wouldn't completely discount the possibility of developing human feelings. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable, but the involved parties should recognize those developments and tread mindfully of the potential consequences.
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
 
Agreed that the girls are "at work", however few jobs, in fact no other job I know means getting "physically intimate ". Notice I did not say becoming intimate in a mental sense, some girls can completely distance their thoughts from an encounter where they are doing the same things physically with a total stranger .. or a "regular" as they do with a S.O.
Others can develop big issues with this and that is where many turn to a diversion of reality such as coke or other pharmaceuticals to escape the mental ties. The money can be great, however the mental attachment given the right chemistry can be a torture.
This can be the case for the provider or the client, or both in these "business arrangements". I'm sure many of us have been there.
Definite hobbying hazard.

Acceptable risk IMHO!

:)
 
Thatโ€™s fine. But wether we like it or not, the reason they are there is to make money, because they are at WORK.
I think I have a healthy relationship with my regulars. I treat them well, and they treat me well. Human moments do happen, and I value them, but only in the MP. I hobby for fun and adventure, not for love. If anyone has greater emotional needs than this they should get girlfriends.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke๐ŸŒนtable shower .body scrub โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Ivy big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, Luna deep massage, back walking massage so good ๐Ÿ‘has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door
  32. Golden Flower Spa:
  33. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  34. Pink Flower Spa:
  35. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Canadian ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Indian girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  36. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : New Girl Cici, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS MIA**
  37. Randomgg:
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  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Young and beautiful Korean girls working at 382 Wilson Ave๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-840-0071โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โค๏ธ
  39. Alibi Massage and Spa:
    Most sensual touch ๐Ÿ’‹ ALIBI Massage&SPA ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSANDY 36D-28-36; ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บROSE 36C-28-36; ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ฒCHANEL 36D-28-36 ๐Ÿ“ž905 212 1222๐Ÿ“1380 Matheson Blvd East, Mississauga
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐Ÿ’„beautiful new girl Cici,amazing massage,backwalking ,hot stone,give you warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  42. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY(12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups
  43. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  45. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธJessicaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Young sweet Mia 25โ€™s good massage and young pretty Vicky 25โ€™s with curve body good massage,cute Ella and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธCamila๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAntonela Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, FIONA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. FIONA is a lovely & slim Japanese hottie, with great services. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy brown girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
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