Question MSOG recipes

I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
Be careful with certain "natural" products and potential drugs you already take, they may not agree with body chemistry.
 
Be careful with ginseng, and certain drug interactions.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
 
Yikes!

I am staying away from that!
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?
 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
I think Korean ginseng is the best.

I did try buying a fresh ginseng root in Chinatown but perhaps the Chinese people who sold it to me are laughing.
 
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?

Magnesium makes my erections firmer (that's the M in ZMA). Vitamin D3 makes them last longer. Vitamin K2 MK-7 cleared my arteries to get rid of my old age ED. Dark chocolate helps. It contains a vasodilator called theobromine. One teaspoon of nutmeg powder gives a boost about four hours later. It tastes terrible. I've read some good things recently about Kyolic aged garlic extract, but haven't tried it.

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I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
So, I found out it was not the Black Ginger that was giving me trouble. In fact I was over doing magnesium. Apparently 2 grams a day is way too much. I stopped the magnesium and all the problems went away. I will start taking magnesium again in a couple of weeks but at a much smaller dose in the evenings.
 
Korean Red Ginseng extract improved my erections but made my prostate swell up so bad I couldn't empty my bladder. Ginseng is known to increase estrogen.
Ginseng is pretty legendary among Koreans. If I go to the korean supermarket asking for it, the ladies all give me this knowing look.
 
just ordered a t booster from Amazon. had some good reviews so I will try since Im running out of. black ginger... lol see if it's good. has a red bull head on a black bottle. from rise nutrition
 
MSOG wise I have been in a slump lately (stress, maybe age catching up with me, experiments with supplements back-firing). A strategy that works to up the intensity and enjoyment is for me now is to wait longer between ejaculations. After a day I am a little frustrated, after two days very frustrated and after three days I am kind of desperate. At the three day mark the condom does not impede my enjoyment, a lot comes out of me, the orgasm is really intense and after I am so sensitive that it is painful. After the session I then knock one or two more out at home, and they are just as intense. And I notice with SWs when I am more "desperate" they feel more desired and the session is overall better. Chocolate cake is nice everyday, but great if you have not had it for a while. It may have something to do with dopamine (the reward neurotransmitter). I heard recently that constantly elevated levels of dopamine are actually toxic to neurons. Fun stops being as much fun when you do fun stuff all the time. So with that in mind, it is better to rest two days and cum three times on the third day, than it is to cum once a day for three days. At least for me at this point in my old age. For younger or healthier guys that feeling of desperation might come much faster. However long it takes (days or hours), if you can wait until you need sex rather than just wanting it, both you and your partner or SW will enjoy it more.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I can personally attest to the Coolidge Effect from my FFM threesome last summer,
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips? Sorry for somewhat derailing the conversation but there seems to be good discussion happening here.
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips?

Try more nukes. You might need to start sooner, possibly even the day before. I've also read some interesting reports of a product called Pau Yuen Tong (PYT) balm. It is a numbing balm that uses clove oil as the active ingredient. There are some great reviews and some poor ones. The great reviews seem to indicate that you have to use the correct application procedure. Supposedly, if you get it right, you can last a long time without loss of sensation. I haven't tried it. You can buy it on Amazon.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?
 
Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?

For mucuna the recommendation seems to be 5 days on, then 2 days off. After three weeks of that, take a whole week off. For maca there are different suggestions. Take a week off every month, or two months on, one month off. Some say one day off per week. idk
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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