The Storm Is Coming

[Evie B]

Err, I'm not going to bother asking for sources, but the issue ls less net output and more surplus accumulation since the dawn of the industrial era (1750 or so). That goes for Methane, Carbon Dioxide, Nitrous Oxide, and CFC-12. During the current geological epoch the PPM for all of these thing were flat, and they all took off with the industrial revolution and modern farming. The numbers ATM have gotten to levels usually associated with some fairly cataclysmic natural event in the absence of such an event. Given the current levels of these and many other human pollutants, and the human triggered collapse in biodiversity, at this point any major planetary natural event would would quickly turn into an extinction level event even ignoring the consequences of climate change. (Basically, we're living dangerously.)

As for the storm, the Northern Boy in me was underwhelmed. I called it yesterday, "Watch this, it will mostly go around us like every other storm this winter." I had no special insight here... I just got lucky. Though the wind was howling and the snow was coming pretty good for a while last night.

 

[Noor]

Name calling again. That's cool because you like to assume you know it all and again you are WRONG, I'm not a fat guy. Just once please get it right, just once!

You do know what they say about ASS-U-ME?

 

[Neil A]

what TOM said....

Now couple that with our practice of removing the very things (plant life) that clean our air and the effect is even more pronounced.

I read that it takes something like 20 trees a year to remove the CO one person produces in a day.....(just by breathing) so if we increase the population by 1, and cut down 100 trees, the net result is that we're removing the planet's ability to clean the air and increasing the load 1000 fold......

You don't have to be a scientist to realize that sooner or later, it's all going to catch up to us.

Here's a less lethal experiment:
Go to home depot and get a $3.00 5 gallon bucket
Fill the bucket half way with water.
Every time you have to take a piss, pee in the bucket
Every time you have to piss, take a glass of water from the bucket.
After a week drink the glass from the bucket. it will be about 90% urine.

 

[puredagnastyevil]

Oh my bad, for assuming that a guy who named himself chunky, isn't...

But more importantly: stop eating beef and stop polluting the planet

As for getting it right, once. Kind of looks like I did since those TTC drivers did in fact lose their jobs......DOH

 

[I am not Burnette]

You got me there I do love my meat and I do enjoy letting them rip but there you go again GOING overboard thinking that my farting leads to climate change!!

 

[t.n.h]

No, there YOU go, I never once said letting one go contributes to climate change, eating beef does......or are you going all cleopatra on that too?

BTW: I thought you said you were going to put me on ignore????

 

[Pompal 09.]

OK I can see you have a reading comprehension problem. Let me show you what I said.



I enjoy the banter. I look forward to logging on and reading your dribble. It's like turning on the TV and seeing Premier Dad making a speech. He annoys the living shit out of me but I stay tuned on the channel, I'm a little fucked up that way. I also can't stand Benny Hinn or Oral Roberts and I still leave the channel on for a couple of minutes just to see what the 2 dummies are rambling on about.

Don't worry I will never put you on ignore as long as you keep me entertained.

 

[mac A]

It actually does become non-toxic when trees absorb the CO2's and turn it into oxygen


LOL....I knew Al Gore was a hobbyist, I didnt know he had a handle on massageplanet though :tongue:

 

[Margarita de la Rosa]

Al Gore, Clinton, and this one is no surprise Charlie Sheen are all avid posters.

 

[edie]

LOL...they make a shitload of money by scaring the masses into coughing up their cash.
Donate lotsa money or you go to hell, its surprisingly effective.

Very similar to how Al Gore makes his carbon credit money.
Scare the populace enough by telling them the planet is doomed, and they will literally give you the shirt off their back(s)

 

[Pastor Art (((SFECU)))]

Thats top-notch science there, tboy

 

[Zerexiam]

But it is a simple example of what we're doing to the planet.

As for your trees cleaning the air: what if we've cut down all the trees? What cleans the air then? (and before you say another word, we HAVE cut down just about 90% of the trees in southern ontario so don't even go there).

Ok, here's another simple experiment:
You have 1 cleaner in a 10 x 10 room. You have 5 guys bringing in buckets of dirt. How long before the room is full? This is a perfect example of the "load" we're expecting the plant life to clean. We've reduced the amount of "cleaners" yet increased (exponentially) the amount of pollutants.

I think the problem is people see the world as an infinite resource, but it isn't. It is finite. There is only so much we can do before the system breaks down. I mean seriously, we TRUCK our garbage to another country because we've run out of room here, doesn't that tell you something?

I just thought of a good example of the human race's ignorance:

The buffalo. Back in the day when they/we moved west we saw great herds of buffalo. Millions of them. So mankind went out and said "hey look at all dem dare buffalo, we can shoot as many as we want, lookit dem all"

A few years later the same people said "hey wait, where all dem buffalo"???

 

[D. (Da Dude) Danderfoose]

I agree actually, we need to cut down less trees and plant more

 

[omgxxxshoes]

That's it, it's called sustained/managed forests....yet we're still cutting them down faster than we're replacing them. Hence why steel studs etc are becoming more and more popular as framing on new house construction.....I see the waste first hand. The average house produces about 100 tons of waste......(most of which is 100% recyclable)

 

[Melissa]

I'm probably a fair bit further left on economic and social issues than Al Gore, but on the environment I'm actually more of a pragmatist. It's just that I happen to be stuck at the bottom of this giant gravity well we call Earth... As long as I and my descendants are stuck here maintaining a reasonable biodiversity and basic habitability should be a priority. (Feel free to kill baby seals and consume resources, just do this stuff in a way that maintains habitability and biodiversity, and err on the side of caution.)

 

[xenonoh2]

I am truly enjoying this:
As for the weather, can not do anything about it. Reality, every creature, human or not will eventually become extinct. Or something from the stars will get us.

I like the storm so far wish it was like Ottawa a few years back.:he:

 

[queenbeeth22]

Bliss from now on any bad weather we have to endure is all your fault!!:grrrrrr:

Global warming is all Esco and Chunky's fault!:grrrrrr:

All firings of city workers are Tboy's fault. arty:

 

[Fillet-O-Fish]

I love Mother Nature when she becomes Bitchy MS or what?

 

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I'm just glad I didn't blamed for anything this time!

 

[Lollipop]

Pretty cool picture: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ows-Northern-Hemisphere-covered-snow-ice.html

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