The Storm Is Coming

[Wanderer]

Just out of curiosity, exactly why?

 

[junebug493]

I am well acquainted with the weather patterns in the Niagara Region as well as all the fruit growing areas in Ontario. If you look at for example Prince Edward County they used to have a "healthy" tenderfruit industry that died about 50 years ago. The temperatures that they had were cold enough to KILL TREES while those types of temps haven't been seen in the last 30 years.

Talking to old guys who used to go outside in the middle of the night to take a piss is often a good source of information.

 

[horny one]

so, because it is now warmer than it was 50 yrs ago, you don't believe in global warming? That is exactly what you're saying.......

 

[Jitter]

No what I am saying is that we are experiencing the same extremes of temperature as they used to 50 to 60 years ago. within the last 3 weeks "the County" had -36C.
Thats really really fucking cold. But no worse than what they have historically gotten.

 

[Lis]

But -36 isn't cold enough to, as you said it, "kill trees".....and dude, -36, that isn't cold. 10 yrs ago when I was framing in Orangeville we set a temp of -35 as our cut off point where we wouldn't work....we didn't work about 21 - 28 days throughout the winter.....Hell, I went skiing once at Blue Mountain and it was -38 without the windchill.....-45 WITH the windchill......and that was 20 yrs ago.

So once again, it hasn't been cold enough to kill trees, like 50 yrs ago, but you don't believe the weather patterns have changed....ok, as long as that is what you are saying.......

(but, considering the earth is about 4.5 billion years old, 50 yrs is but a nanosecond in the whole time frame)

btw:



Nope, it's not getting warmer, nope, not at all, no way.....(sticks his head back in the sand)

Let me ask you something else:

Do you also "not believe" in pollution either?

 

[LFC Fan]

I hate to say this but that chart means nothing.

Unless you provide the way the data was gathered and each year it was gathered by the same instrumentation year and and year out. The chart means nothings and the study is flawed.

 

[Gerik]

Well, that is impossible to do since the technology today wasn't available back when they first started recording weather data.

Just so you know, NO one really is questioning whether global warming is happening or not (only those with their heads in the sand), the question is whether we are causing it or is it a natural event.

But hey, no worries eh? Let's all go outside and start our cars and trucks and let them run forever....let's stop policing industry to prevent them from dumping toxins into our drinking water...let keep "cracking" the water table to get natural gas......let's keep hunting and fishing resources to extinction.......

Didn't you know? that brown haze over toronto is a naturally occuring event therefore we shouldn't be concerned about it......:kiss:

 

[ladydi]

Now that is the rub.

you are presenting what you wish me to believe is factual data with out being able to provide the facts. But you do admit the conditions of the test constantly change, yet you want to have people believe the testing is done as a constant.

Junk science.

 

[Priestess]

Actually no, the conditions of the test do not change constantly, they became more accurate as time progresses.

Since we're talking millions of pieces of data over a long period of time, a small discrepancy isn't that important. For eg: you collect temperature data on your front porch every day for a year. If on one of those days you misread the temp by 1/2 deg, it isn't going to skew the yearly average by any significant amount.

You can dispute all you want, one thing most scientists agree on is that the earth IS getting warmer. The only thing in dispute is whether we are contributing to it or not.

I guess you also don't believe that man actually went to the moon since the science and technology they used back in the 60's isn't as good as it is today?

I bet you also don't believe that there was an ice age since we have no photographic proof that it actually occured?

Here's where the chart came from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

BTW: now you can go back to sticking your head in the sand.......

 

[siya]

And you just told us why the graph is not accurate.

To accept it as fact you would need to only use the same thermometer used 100 plus years ago. That or acknowledge that numbers gathered from year to year vary due to changes in metering methods and locations.


All you have in that graph is AL GORE junk science.

 

[Artism]

I agree the climate to some extent is changing and I have no idea if it's man made or a natural occurrence but there is one thing I do know. Al Gore and other criers of man-made global warming are becoming filthy rich and if you take a look at the assholes life style, he's carbon footprint is as big as Sasquatch.

http://newsbusters.org/node/11149

Even our provincial government has jumped on the ban wagon and used the cause to send our hydro rates through the roof chasing solar and wind substitutions.

Anyone want to buy a carbon credit I hear they are great investment?

 

[jack skellington]

+1:great: but change your avatar dude.

 

[shadow95340]

Tboy, did you know there's some highly regarded scientists who are now speaking out against GW??
I'm too lazy to google them all but there's quite a few of them.

And Guido gets it. Its all about money, the almighty dollar

 

[vicki_gratt63]

How's this for global warming. Coldest January since 1994: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

-27F (-33 Celsius) in Oklahoma, all-time low: http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_...d-for-low-temperature,-tulsa-ties-city-record