Opinion Times are changing

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Times sure are a changin...
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From my perspective the times are changing when it comes to the Spa scene. On the business side Supply has exceeded Demand and we are are the down side of the Bell curve. In Markham there are way too many places that I would describe as Semi Legit.......some good and some not so good. Major intersections have signs shoved into the grass offering low ball prices. Just yesterday I saw one that offered a 30 minute massage for $19.99. What does that tell you? Places that I have some intel on are only getting a handful of customers per day and are struggling to stay afloat. The granny and milf places are not going to survive and will disappear, they just can't get new young talent. I think in the future someone will go to a Legit or Rmt massage place for a solid massage. If someone are looking for something more they will likely visit a place like QQ Square.
Young ladies that want to make a lot of money in a short time will work at places like QQ, make their money and disappear.

Just my opinion guys.
You so smart,, granny places going the wasteside? ur a dumbs ass milfs are are, lets just say tis... so much more intelligent that dumbs ass 20 year olds.
go ahead and try to put your dick in a 20 year-old and then write a review. that aint going to happen>>>>>>>>>>>
if so, then tell us. and then maybe, we wil believe what u say> mf
 
From my perspective the times are changing when it comes to the Spa scene. On the business side Supply has exceeded Demand and we are are the down side of the Bell curve. In Markham there are way too many places that I would describe as Semi Legit.......some good and some not so good. Major intersections have signs shoved into the grass offering low ball prices. Just yesterday I saw one that offered a 30 minute massage for $19.99. What does that tell you? Places that I have some intel on are only getting a handful of customers per day and are struggling to stay afloat. The granny and milf places are not going to survive and will disappear, they just can't get new young talent. I think in the future someone will go to a Legit or Rmt massage place for a solid massage. If someone are looking for something more they will likely visit a place like QQ Square.
Young ladies that want to make a lot of money in a short time will work at places like QQ, make their money and disappear.

Just my opinion guys.
Yeah, that makes sense.
 
Perhaps we will end up like Amsterdam. Very few massage places but tons of fuck shops that are not crazy expensive
Hope not. While I don't think fs places are going away it'd be a shame if you had to pay those prices just to get a good massage and leave happy

That said it does seem that every popular mpa wants to hang out a shingle lately. Running a spa isn't the same as working the room so not all will be successful imo
 
Hang out a shingle? What does that expression mean?
That expression means to start your own business. A "shingle" was a sign with your name and profession. Especially when the office is operated out of your house.

It's an old school thing

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Sigh. You old people and your old ways. This this the first time I've heard of that expression.
Hahaha. Well it was slightly before my time but the time of my parents who were boomers

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Sigh. You old people and your old ways. This is the first time I've heard of that expression.
Thatโ€™s interestingโ€ฆ I always thot young people = gd @ google & using the internetโ€ฆ :D

 
Any updates? The news says there might be a recession coming up? Is that true?

They will not tell you we are already in a recession since June; Some big banks already call it a technical recession; whatever the fuk that means. Restaurants, retails and all other business activity indicators, including escort agencies and massage parlors are already suffering. Past the coming holiday season, around Jan/feb, 2024, they will finally admit that we have entered into a recession; But they will blame it on current ongoing events in middle east.

As for the pussy industry, supply will soon overrun demand, more SP/MP girls entering the market, while demand continues to dry up. A severe decline in price will follow across the board. Already, most Indy's are coming back to agencies; and agencies are offering promos.
 
As far as North America goes, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are kind of a bubble. We got it good here. Unless you are talking street girls, our neighbours to the south pay through the nose.

As for the local scene, the economy and immigration will always be the two biggest determinants. No one can tell the future, and it's always possible that some Emanuel Jacques style incident could lead to a crackdown, but barring that, our society will tolerate the biz and there's certainly money to be made.
 
Times are tough , I am getting texts from places I have only been once or twice in the year , itโ€™s all specials all over the place and yet few people want to believe 80 bucks for a BS is badly remunerated ,
 
They will not tell you we are already in a recession since June; Some big banks already call it a technical recession; whatever the fuk that means. Restaurants, retails and all other business activity indicators, including escort agencies and massage parlors are already suffering. Past the coming holiday season, around Jan/feb, 2024, they will finally admit that we have entered into a recession; But they will blame it on current ongoing events in middle east.

As for the pussy industry, supply will soon overrun demand, more SP/MP girls entering the market, while demand continues to dry up. A severe decline in price will follow across the board. Already, most Indy's are coming back to agencies; and agencies are offering promos.
Why are the Asian agencies charging $400/hr with additional charges
 
Why are the Asian agencies charging $400/hr with additional charges
That is because most of the girls come from overseas and do not want to come to Toronto as they find everything to be expensive, as a result the agencies are having a hard time recruiting girls to come here.
 
Some observations:

- The pent-up demand from the pandemic days has long since dissipated. The influx of new/returning girls over the last 9-12 months means that supply has now outstripped demand.
- Along the same lines, the tip bump the attendants put in place a year or so ago is now working against them in these uncertain times. This decreases demand even more.
- The cross-section of (non-AMP) attendants has shifted to favour the fake boobs/ass/nails/eyelashes tatted gangsta style. There seems to be less variety than there used to be.

Having said all that, this is not really new. There's always been an ebb and flow. Spa's that used to be on the top of the heap with the top talent and premium pricing are struggling for the same shrinking hobby dollar like all the rest.
 
This is an interesting topic, and I have a question for those who know/follow current markets & are in this scene:

1) I'm mainly in the Asian SP scene and in my opinion, prices there are too much right now (typically 220/280/380 for 30/45/60) ... so, hypothetically, if we get the official announcement that we are in a recession at some point in the next year, and MP places lower their price, do you think SP shops will lower their price as well?
 
This is an interesting topic, and I have a question for those who know/follow current markets & are in this scene:

1) I'm mainly in the Asian SP scene and in my opinion, prices there are too much right now (typically 220/280/380 for 30/45/60) ... so, hypothetically, if we get the official announcement that we are in a recession at some point in the next year, and MP places lower their price, do you think SP shops will lower their price as well?
Announcement of recession will do nothing. If enough guys just cut down the frequency of their visits that may help bring down prices. So long as supply stays strong.
 
This is an interesting topic, and I have a question for those who know/follow current markets & are in this scene:

1) I'm mainly in the Asian SP scene and in my opinion, prices there are too much right now (typically 220/280/380 for 30/45/60) ... so, hypothetically, if we get the official announcement that we are in a recession at some point in the next year, and MP places lower their price, do you think SP shops will lower their price as well?
99 percent of these attendants, wouldnโ€™t turn our heads on the street, but , close the door on a small room and our stupidity lights up the room $$$
 
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  35. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Beautiful Girls Cici & Tiffany. Cici has lovely Sexy Body. She Enjoys Providing a Smooth Full Body Massage. Tiffany is a Young and Very Sexy Girl. She has sexy body with natural 34C boobs. Business hour: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ 3601 Highway 7, Unit#103, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  36. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”๐Ÿ†•Stella, 34D Cici, Yoyo, Coco, Aaliyah, Selena, Yui, Tina, Michelle & New Kimmyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹โฃat 4386 Sheppard Avenue east Thursday โฃโค Nana,๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’‹ average height and sexy build, nice boobs, long hair. Beautiful. good service level. ๐Ÿ’˜๐Ÿ’• Lucy,โค๐Ÿ’‹ beautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica, ๐Ÿ’‹medium height, sexy build with shapely legs and ass. friendly, relaxing finish ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ Crystal, ๐Ÿ’‹average height, slim build, very pretty, white skin, medium treatment, very smooth, choice finish ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  38. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty๐Ÿ’–Indian ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address:6262 hwy7 unit 1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  40. Adele in Etobicoke:
    New in Toronto ๐Ÿ… Young European girl with a great body and face! ๐Ÿ… Avail until 9pm ๐Ÿ… Queensway and Kipling ๐Ÿ… 647-553-3202 โ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  42. gold__rose__spa:
    ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿตat 1536 Warden Avenue ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’Thursday, โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’ฅMichelle๐Ÿ’‹ for traditional style treatment and quality services., newly toned body, strong, does very firm treatment, pleasant personality ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ“ณ647 346-8086๐Ÿ“ณ
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday ,RMT available Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Sunny,she is very friendly nice girl,deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…,short Q girl Lucy is very good looking,she got a lot experience ,cupping backwalk deep to relax massage,๐Ÿ”ฅlong hair Lily ,beautiful face nice friendly,open maid,she know what do you want๐Ÿ˜
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  45. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (12pm โ€“ 8pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (12:30am-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  46. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โคat 4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹Thursday,โ™ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ Jenny,๐Ÿ’ฅ average body, tall and pretty, here for therapeutic treatment with amazing finish+ Tammy, full body ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฅโ˜Ž๏ธ647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun 30โ€™s with big buttocks 36DD , sexy Coco and sweet young Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Fedi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  50. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
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