y4hoo000019
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If it was universally as bad as you say it is, nobody would ever come back. I wonder if we're all going to the same place.
I don't rent jetskis, but I've seen the crowds gather when someone has a problem, and listened in long enough and often enough to learn that the damage was not only obvious, but fresh. Maybe I haven't seen what you describe, but I don't bother with the jetskis anyway. As to tuk-tuks, I usually go with the motorbike taxis, and have never had a driver change the amount that was originally agreed to. Maybe some of you had a real jerk as a driver. The way things were written above, you'd think this was common practice. About trying to charge very high prices initially, so does everyone else in Patong. Touts, whether they got a salary or work on commission, that's still how they're earning their living. If they're using a picture or a something to try to get people interested, of course they're going to show it to everyone walking by, where there's any chance the person might be interested. Is it really any different between between "shoving an x rated close up of a pussy into a married couple or womans face" and having the girls physically pull you into a bar that you're walking by? Nobody here is complaining about the girls, but that's why people come to Thailand. Maybe the touts are annoying, but they don't actually reach out and grab you.
As to prices, if the driver says 80 baht and you say 40 baht, isn't it foolish to actually get into or onto the taxi until the driver has agreed with your price?
I may or may not be inconsistent here. Of course it's OK to pay whatever you want, as you're the one on holiday, it's your money, and if you want to spend far more than you have to, why not? It's also wrong because it helps raise the prices for everyone else. Is that contradictory? Which do I feel is right? All I can say is what's right for one person might not be right for the next. It's the same thing with opinions. You might think my opinions are ill-informed, as based on your experiences, I'm wrong. This works both ways. In several cases, I think the advice offered here is usually very good, but then I read things every so often that just plain contradict what I actually see when I'm there. If the place was universally as bad as you guys say it is, nobody would be foolish enough to come back for a second visit, let alone a third or fourth, or many many more.
"Thailand can keep its charms and keep its attraction and still have a fair equitable system that doesn't involve ripping people off. A fair reward for a fair service. Unfortunately the attitude is becoming one of take without giving." ---- Probably a very good way to sum everything up, but isn't the truth that many people there are simply trying to charge more for providing less service?
I don't rent jetskis, but I've seen the crowds gather when someone has a problem, and listened in long enough and often enough to learn that the damage was not only obvious, but fresh. Maybe I haven't seen what you describe, but I don't bother with the jetskis anyway. As to tuk-tuks, I usually go with the motorbike taxis, and have never had a driver change the amount that was originally agreed to. Maybe some of you had a real jerk as a driver. The way things were written above, you'd think this was common practice. About trying to charge very high prices initially, so does everyone else in Patong. Touts, whether they got a salary or work on commission, that's still how they're earning their living. If they're using a picture or a something to try to get people interested, of course they're going to show it to everyone walking by, where there's any chance the person might be interested. Is it really any different between between "shoving an x rated close up of a pussy into a married couple or womans face" and having the girls physically pull you into a bar that you're walking by? Nobody here is complaining about the girls, but that's why people come to Thailand. Maybe the touts are annoying, but they don't actually reach out and grab you.
As to prices, if the driver says 80 baht and you say 40 baht, isn't it foolish to actually get into or onto the taxi until the driver has agreed with your price?
I may or may not be inconsistent here. Of course it's OK to pay whatever you want, as you're the one on holiday, it's your money, and if you want to spend far more than you have to, why not? It's also wrong because it helps raise the prices for everyone else. Is that contradictory? Which do I feel is right? All I can say is what's right for one person might not be right for the next. It's the same thing with opinions. You might think my opinions are ill-informed, as based on your experiences, I'm wrong. This works both ways. In several cases, I think the advice offered here is usually very good, but then I read things every so often that just plain contradict what I actually see when I'm there. If the place was universally as bad as you guys say it is, nobody would be foolish enough to come back for a second visit, let alone a third or fourth, or many many more.
"Thailand can keep its charms and keep its attraction and still have a fair equitable system that doesn't involve ripping people off. A fair reward for a fair service. Unfortunately the attitude is becoming one of take without giving." ---- Probably a very good way to sum everything up, but isn't the truth that many people there are simply trying to charge more for providing less service?