in love with a bargirl... big question here

Had an Ovation "Anniversary Special" with steel strings for years.

Finally had a crack appear in the neck and ditched it.

Settled on a very nice "Seagull" cedar faced steel string acoustic. Not very expensive, but sounds great. 55555 :oh:
 
These are working girls. The only money/love connection for them is their love of your money! :rules:
 
oh yeah
by the way, asking any women this question sort of shows a little bit of insecurity. which at 24 yrs old, is to be expected
 
Sry, but i simply think its unfair to not pay them. Even if they offer that for me i always pay!!! ( a golden rule of mine)

And welcome to thailand!

:cheers:

hugo
 
I think you will find this forum caters to a far wider audience than "sex tourists" OMG. Don't be so presumptuous.
 

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LOL, yah just friends.....man....she knows how to catch men.........

at the other site:

i was together with a non BG - ok - sex was free, but all the food, drinks and stuff not.....

and who knows.....i saw her a few months not.....she will ahve sex with others..its ok.......she is waiting for me.......i can decide, if i want to have her again if i go back to LOS or if i want to have an other girl

if BG or not.....the only difference is: for ine u pay for sex and for the other not.....

but,,,,,,,if she was once in BG biz...i would never trust her......(to be honest: i could not really start a serious realtionship with these kind of girls.....)

OMG wrote: .... mean, why not **** her? She said nonono, just friends.
 
She called me at 11:15 to tell me she was sorry, but i was sleeping so i just asked her: Where were you yesterday? she said: in my room.

Yesterday i forgot to mension that at like 5:45am i went to her room (10 seconde walk from mine) and i looked in the room. There were 2 girls sleeping. Her friend that i could see and another girl but i coulden't see verry well in the dark. I knocked in the window, but no answer. So maybe its true she slept there.

But what about a ****ing sjort time?
 
Yeah, I read what you said, and well done on finally doing the right thing. My point is that throughout this, you haven't been honest with yourself. You went into a Thai bar and picked up a bar girl. Yet you tell all the old-timers that they're just jealous - that you don't 'have to' pay for sex. Nobody 'has to', some people choose to. If you're between forty and death, it's a lot quicker for a start.

But if, during that first morning with her, she'd asked 'Where's my money?' would you have refused to pay her? No, you would have paid up. So what's the difference between you and anyone else?

What saddens me is that, reading through our posts, I begin to see the affair from her point of view. You neither throw her out or pay her after the first night, so she starts to think that you might be serious. That she might be one of the very luckiest girls, who is a few weeks into the job and meets a young falang who will take care of her and maybe marry her.

But once again, be honest. Are you mature enough and strong enough to take her home and introduce her to your family and friends? To answer the questions and suspicions they might have? Was it ever even a possibility? I doubt it.

The other girls at the bar are probably explaining to her that young butterflies expect everything for free and then they go home to their falang girlfriend. They're probably telling her the old guys don't look or possibly smell too good, but they have more money and are much more likely to commit to them. Then they'll explain to her about the sponsors 'system'. Milk a few old guys simultaneously and hope one of them eventually puts a ring on her finger.

Start thinking about things from her point of view. She's a flesh and blood woman, with feelings. Visa2003 is right - find a way to make it up to her. It might even still be money, sent to her via a third party - you can give it to a trusted falang friend and have him drop it in to her. Or you could give her a generous gift - Thai girls seem to have a weakness for gold.

OMG, you're not a bad guy and you've learnt a few lessons, but at the end of the day you walk away from it and she's back to making a living selling sex. It's not an easy life. She deserves some respect and kindness.
 
Hold your horses man, you've just met her. Don't let love blind you.

Why you don't have to pay? Don't know, could be she's not short of cash at the moment, maybe she wants a young guy for fun for a change and not an old fat drunk tourist (they're only human too), she wants to show you off as a trophy to her friends (hence the jealousy),...

It's impossible to say she's genuine or not, but the 3 week story, don't know...

By the way how's her English? If her she speaks decent english (thai english of course), she either is well educated or has spent quite some time already in the p4p business. Met some girls the same age as your gf over at my gf's village, they had english for some years in highschool. Their English was total crap, couldn't even hold the most basic kind of English conversation.

Oh yes, welcome to the board enjoy your holiday and your gf but take it easy on the commitments. First walk and then run.
 
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Ok, its been like 12-13 days we are together and still, i haden't give her 1$.

So yesterday, we were together and she was going to work (it was 8:30 pm). Than, i begin speaking about her ''cousin'' who takes a different guy every night but obviously she has a 22 years old guy who send her 20 000 bahts a month. So we start talking about bargirls and her cousin... And sudently she starts crying. I asked her about 50 times what she had, but it took her 40 minutes to tell me:

''look, i really like you, and i like spending time with you, but like you say, i'm a BARGIRL! Its been 12 days i'm with you and i made 1300 bahts (with drinks) so......snif snif............. maybe i will have to quit you and continue working.

Ok, the first thing in my mind was: She want me to think that if i give her money she wont go to work and blablabla

But the problem is i steal think that she likes me very much (RTG?)

So i thought about 10 minutes and i told her:

You have 2 choices:

2. I give you money for the time i spent with you, and we quit each other. I go tomorow morning in phuket town alone...

1. Ok look, i told you i wanted you to come with me in phuket town. You quit your job, you find a 8000/months job, i pay the house and the food, and i can ''support'' you. But If you want to come, i tell you right now...
-NEVER i will give you money every month if i go back to Canada like your ''boyfriend's'' cousin do.
-If one time you tell me: look i dont have enough money so i go back to work as a bargirl, my answer will be OK GO!!
-I'm not rich, we will have to stop going to restaurant every day and start making food at home.
-If you quit your job, i tell you right now, you will have a lot less money then you make now. So think about it.

So she start asking me questions about the house. After talking about 30 minutes, i told her: look, if one day you want to quit, just QUIT! I won't beat you lol

So she said... OK i come with you and i quit my job in 2 days. So i told her that i think she needs time to think about it, but even today she told me she really want to come. And we looked for houses today in phuket town.

Anyway, i think i have nothing to loose (maybe a little bit of money if her plan is to rip me off in long terme). So i gave her 3000 bahts today because she made only 1300 bahts for 13 days.
 
You've had enough warnings young man, that's it, I'm on my way round.

Where do you live again?
:erf:
 
i actually think it is good you are going into this on your own terms
i am sure you will get flack for that on here but those same guys will make fun of other guys getting scammed

but you have to understand her perspective also
you are not giving her a lot confidence, i think
a lot of girls get promises from farangs that the farangs never keep

so now you will have this girl that was suddenly partying everyday and having fun with her friends going into a life where she works 12 hours a day with only 1 day off. i see some turbulence ahead
 
With this attitude towards your GF, im not surprised some girls do all they can to scam some guys... Send them away when you get bored... Jesus...

Its still a human being we are talking about, not some toy, even if i understand it is difficult for you to understand the difference....
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, ๐Ÿ‰Queen Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, new young petite girl Yumiko, Jenny, Crystal, Doris, Ocean, Crystal, Queenie, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  33. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒนViennese ๐ŸŒนKorean ๐ŸŒนgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Nu Spring Spa Unit 7, 15 Karachi Dr Markham, ON L3S 0B5 ๐Ÿ“ž416-800-4088 text 416-669-8508
  34. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela ๐Ÿ”ฅ is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ Angela is a Beautiful & Petite Young Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’‹ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’„ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ˜welcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Mina is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Mimi very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Amy is long hair Vietnamese girl,open maid,she can do everything you want,must try,๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ‘call416-5000-800๐Ÿ’„
  38. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Tiana & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Tiana is a Beautiful Jamaican. Talented ๐Ÿ’‹Very Sexyโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธBrandyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & HELLEN. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups. She has top services, bbbj ,cim, pussy slide, 69, SF2, water flute. Donโ€™t miss out! JULIA from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl โ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  45. Forever Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ’Ž We provide the BEST TABLE SHOWER IN TOWN: Clean room with reliable warm shower nozzle ๐Ÿ’Ž Ruby & Lisa (new) and Cindy are available ๐Ÿ’Ž 2190 Warden ๐Ÿ’Ž 416-800-7887 ๐Ÿ’Ž
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  47. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only 5โ€™2โ€ and 95 pounds beautiful face
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Ruby & Cindy. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist, impressive booty, nice massage, great services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Lily 25โ€™s with curive body open mind and young sweet slime Yuki 30โ€™s open mind , young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks 34 DD and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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