Last nights incident in Soi Tiger

[auckerman01]

Imagine, Jazz, richie007, travelgirl all the same person. Have I forgotten anyone?

Sorry,nothing to do with the thread:embrassed

 

[kitykat6669]

According to Geir, two "Thai gangs" had problems and looks like it ended up like this.

 

[Yobitza]

I saw 9 violent incidents with 3 assaults involving knives, 5 were gang bashings ie more than 4 people involved and one was 2 bg's fighting

 

[Adulthood]

Maybe Imagine, 'her' brother, owns the bar and the knife fights have been Jekyl and Hyde type dust ups between Jizz and Richie? I dunno, I'm all confused now :embrassed

 

[gibson_sg345]

This is the top ten countries in terms of crime per capita. (nationmaster) Thailand comes in at No. 47

In terms of murder per capita, Thailand comes in at No. 14. Incidentally, Colombia is No.1 with SA No2.

#1 Dominica 113.822 per 1,000 people
#2 New Zealand 105.881 per 1,000 people
#3 Finland 101.526 per 1,000 people
#4 Denmark 92.8277 per 1,000 people
#5 Chile 88.226 per 1,000 people
#6 United Kingdom 85.5517 per 1,000 people
#7 Montserrat 80.3982 per 1,000 people
#8 United States 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands 79.5779 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa 77.1862 per 1,000 people

 

[frank7]

I heard the same as Nicke.

OK, this is terrible for the person, family and friends it happened to. In over 1 year in the bar and visiting other bars, I can count on 1 hand the amount of fights I've seen.......

 

[joanne342]

I think we should all sit back and wait for some real feedback to come out of these incidents, although it most certainly does feel both are NOT related. If you are aware of the histories here, you will know and understand that.

Too much speculation and I heard from a friend who heard from someone else, only leads to negative impressions being made from other readers who then tell others. This negative chain gossip is something that our Patong friends can well do without at the moment.

 

[Gerrymander]

this show of force, a public shooting, is the strongest message of thai criminal gang "face". i have heard about this in pattaya and rural los but not in patong.
the men who performed this act of course will be known to police, so interesting to see if anything comes from the investigation.
the shooter and his associates

not a gossip topic i am sure, but disturbing this happens in front of farangs normally its kept out of our sight.

 

[Trudy J]

The word bullshit springs to mind, but if you would care to elaborate then I will argue no further.

I really don't want to come across in the wrong way, but I just don't see the same Patong as you do. I have been going there since 1996 and have never seen a punch thrown in anger, though I'm well aware it must happen.

Please, for the sake of ending this particular argument, elaborate on when and where these violent incidents occurred and I will concede the point.

 

[Mike-N-NYC]

exactly that - good point Steve. The truth will be well brushed under the carpet anyway!

 

[~*~Oblivion Helper~*~]

The fact remains that this assasination in the heart of Patong has taken the violence here to a new level. People can sugar coat and say "its different" and play it down but the fact remains it happened and that this kind of violence has the capacity to happen again.

Yes violence has increased a lot more in patong from more thuggish behaviour and it means that one has to be more careful then you could be 5 years ago.

A sad fact but true.

 

[Ansell A]

YOU MUST HAVE GONE LOOKING FOR ALL OF THESE INCIDENTS.....IVE BEEN TO LOS LOTS OF TIMES AND HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS AS MUCH TROUBLE AS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED............IVE SEEN 2 LITTLE ENCOUNTERS...........NOT MUCH TO WRITE ABOUT............IJ

 

[nebbie]

I must admit that in 15 trips to Patong, I've been witness of a few incidents. Most times were fight between bargirls, katoeys or between thai girls and farangs.
One time, I remember a crowd near Banana disco where I was told that an american navy guy had stabbed a girl.
Time where fights occured every night in Tai pan is not so long. I remember chairs flying throug the air in that area.
At least 2 members of this board have been bottled once so violence has always been present.
Personally, I think that we have reached a higher degree of violence. I used to read the local newspapers and never seen so much murders (or suspicious suicides) than last year.
But I must say that I always feel safe in Thailand as I'm not searching for this kind of things...

 

[Ezekiel]

More than I have seen in over 4 years of residency here..

 

[amanda g]

Talk about beeing on the wrong places to the wrong time:biggrinlo

Think this getting out its proportions now:bangin:

 

[Russ]

All said from Faultytowers.
I normally give no statements to post like from travelgirl, but this……:mad2: :mad2:
Since 1988 I visit Thailand once - sometimes twice- a year. But I haven’t seen so much “violence” in these years as travelgirl has stated.
And I must say, I feel also nowadays safe in LOS

 

[CourtStar94]

I live in the capital of British Columbia, and it is marketed as the city of gardens.There are tea rooms, horse and carriage rides, flower baskets on the lamp posts,murders, home invasions of the elderly, a crack epidemic, aids, hep c, and people bumming money, who always harrass the tourists. So, where ever one goes, one should stay alert, and not cause any problems.

I felt safer in Patong than I do in my "jewel" of a home town, but I did not let this lull me in to a false sense of security. I always remember that money and percieved status, is no defence against a gun or a knife.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I was supposed to stay out of this, but the bullshit beeing posted by Travelgirl and some others sort of pisses me off. I dont know any other country, even in the western world, that have less violence than Thailand compared to all the partying going on.
We have to think about that its a huge numbers of people getting drunk here every night and its not that often something bad happens.....
That said its some bad things going on, might be some gangs, corrupt police and stuff like that, but saying Phuket is a bad and dangerous place is as far as I can see totaly out of limit.
Ive been traveling a lot around in Europe before and I feel much safer beeing pissed in Thailand than anywhere else.

No need to make a big deal about one bad incedent:bangin:

Geir

 

[MS S]

I have been in SA a few years ago and I loved this country. Nice people, great landscape and game parks. Totally different compared to holidays in LOS though, but if you like to see something else for a change I can highly recommend it. Certainly there are areas you should avoid (being out in a game park by night, for example) but that applies to other countries, too, I guess.

Btw., anybody out there with some news about the incident itself? I stayed in Patong for two weeks in February and I visited the Snake Bar regularly. Had some coffee or espresso from the girl in front of the bar (there was a photo of her in an other thread) or drank beer and chatted with the girls. To my shame I can't remember the unfortunate barkeeper (from the tables near the coffee shop you couldn't see much of the bar).

 

[SeanT]

I can't get over the fact that Pablo carries a gun ! Must be bloody dangerous over there! Glad to see Australia did'nt make the list Steve. Well not yet anyway !