Wanna go out and meet some cute boys!

[dan90]

Deang moo is red pig

Dang Moo = watermelon.. IIRC she said the TG's christened her that cause of cup size..

 

[ICEBALLS 2]

Jesus Christ was a humble man. He demonstrated his humility when he got down on his knees and washed the feet of a lowly woman, some say a *****, Mary Magadalene. Did Jesus Christ show weakness when he performed that act? I think not. I think he showed his strength.

What do you think, Liam? Do you think Jesus Christ was a submissive person? After all, he did submit to a lot of torture and abuse at the hands of the Roman soldiers who crucified him(see M. Gibson's film, "The Passion of the Christ.") Or do you think it was a matter of Jesus HUMBLY accepting his fate, or as he put, accepting the will of his father, to whom he ceded his power. Jesus was undoubtedly a powerful man(see Bible re miracles), some say he is God. He had the power to stop the Romans, but he didn't. Why? He possessed incredible, God-like strength(perhaps because he is God), enough strength to give up his power, and accept his fate with HUMILITY. You didn't see him kicking and screaming and cursing the Romans or protesting his innocence, either. That's HUMILITY.

Buddha would have been proud of him! In fact, he probably was proud of him. And they probably had a beer together after it was all over! :cheers:

 

[LunaLovegood]

Gildas, when have I called all Thai girls prostitutes? The level of defensiveness on this board gets childish!

 

[Henry Spencer]

It wasnt necessarily quotes from one thread.. As soon as EuroGirl posted she made comments on

A) being with a BG was touching more **** than being with a LB (sounds to me like putting BG's down)
B) fat old farang comment
C) a new HIV thread (a prime Thai girls are infected target..

Those things taken together over an hour or so with no other prior knowledge of a new member its easy to jump to assumptions..

 

[Antares]

Jaws,

Try Amigo bar. A few steps past Playschool in Soi Seadragon. I've seen them drinking tins of cider over there. Not my drink but certainly the owners favourite. Price is far more expensive than a beer if I remember.
Cheers
Captain

 

[Leeiiissssaaaaa]

100% agree with the second paragraph.. I always speak my mind (and often cause offense) its just the way I am..

as to a ttotally anon section, it would be very hard to know who was replying to what and or who was answering a question directed at them etc.. Mangosauce was like this and worse for it IMHO..

 

[Dead Parrot Society]

Loads of nothing being said at this point. I want to address a few things though...firstly, the attacks on Liam are ridiculous. I really hate how so many people here base their opinions on Thailand from a small sample group, in both directions. I also hate the "preaching" about Thai culture. A good example is how people go on and on about how others should learn about Thai culture basing this all on their own experience. It was brought about by Jaybee how the most exalted in Thai society are the humblest of monks, this is true, it is also true that in line with buddhist tradition materialism has no place yet if you look at much of Thai culture that you are basing things on, bg scene for one, materialism is a driving factor. I met a very lovely Thai bloke about 25 who told me how he will likely never marry because he does not earn enough money, pretty sad and not in line with the very principles of Thai culture in many ways.

Then the whole subservience issue came up. Thai women are subservient, but so too are Thai men, that is a part of the culture which is a demure and kind culture.

The whole bollocks about western girls being hard up and desperate for attention is unfair and stupid and serves more as payback I suspect from blokes who wouldn't be getting attention in the west at all, came here, and suddenly got attention...albeit often false. I am 1,56, I am hardly a giant towering over thai women, and even if I was, I do not think that would detract from how I look on the outside or inside. I wear heals here to be taller every day and night as I do not like being so short. Admittedly there are many girls who have a hard time here, many farang girls who likely would also have a difficult time in the west as well. Shame how many men have so much sympathy for guys in this position as I have read several times on this board as a defense of the bg scene(the comment for example, isn't it nice that someone who would otherwise be lonely can come here and meet women that give them attention if even for pay etc made by a poster from australia I believe) yet the women are met with disdain if this is the case. To me it wreaks of bitterness on the part of the men writing this negative shite.

Personally I have not had a bit of a problem whether farang or Thai men, as I like Thai men I am also quite fortunate to be in Thailand. Certainly the fact that I am short helps, but I know a tall swiss girl who also has had no problems pulling in Thailand.

In Liam's defense, it is hardly a misnomer to say that there are differences on many levels between farang and tg's. TG's, and boys, come from a more submissive culture, most men do find that appealing as a trait in women. This is particularly true, as I mentioned before, when a many comes from a culture with domineering women...sweden I use as example. On the other hand, I can also say that I recall sitting in Stockholm at the Thai embassy to get my permits and the number of girls there who spoke no swedish and no english with their "husbands" astounded me. I do not know what someone can base a marriage on, or a relationship for that matter if one is unable to communicate. In Bangkok I went out with a bloke who spoke less english than I do Thai. It did not go past one date as I found it too difficult to mime the whole time and thus disinteresting.

Now, YES BOYs I AM HERE!!, my impressions of patong where I was last night with a person I met on this board actually who asked to meet me:

It was not offensive in any way. I never thought it would be. I was disgusted, literally sick, from seeing some of the men the girls had to leave with, but I did not ever feel uncomfortable anywhere other than that factor. And if you flame me because of that, oh well, but when I see a girl walking away with a man and know what she has to do and he is old and wrinkly or just nasty looking, my sympathy is with her!(and before you lot attack you damn well know you have the same empathies if you see bloke pull or walk out with a girl that looks a mess)

Unlike Pattaya the girls do not seem to be jumping out at any male that walks by, it is seemingly contained in each bar...very good! There were some families, couples, and all sorts of people. I would say the mean age was quite high though, young guys were scarce in comparison to older, confirming what I already thought, the average age being somewhere in the 30's. There were some younger blokes but mainly of the UK/Irish variety...looks wise not in my demographic either. Most of the bar girls were ok looking for TG's but my Thai girl friends are hotter than most of the bgs hands down. Some of the bgs were stunning though but perhaps they all start that way and the lifestyle wears on them.

Attention was, as I suspected, not at all a problem for me, so you "attention craving" theorists can try for another theory. I found it interesting, not offensive (except when I had to see some really nasty blokes on their way home with tiny bg's), and a bit of a good time. I still would prefer Phuket Town though I think as I like Thai men and in Pattong do not trust the motives as much as I would in a mostly Thai environment...luckily I have made two Thai Girlfriends already with whom I will go to Phuket Town. Incidentally, for all those who go on and on about how acceptable it all is, my Thai friends who grew up here in Phuket told me how they hated to go to Pattong because they are always worried men will think they are bg's. One girl is, in my opinion, very beautiful and single and wants to meet a farang man...but a cute one as she put it. To this end I will do my best to hook her up.

I can certainly see myself pissed in Patong on many a night, but in general I am not usually attracted to touristy places anywhere I go preferring to learn from and mix with locals as much as I can so it would never, regardless of bg scene, have been my first choice venue. I think when I crave western company it may be somewhere I would hang out though as there is such a range of people from the ubiquitous brits, to the more reserved swedes and everything in between. All in all it is not disgusting just a different scene.

 

[Geri M]

May i ask how long you been in Thailand?

 

[Flizbap]

[/QUOTE]

I find all this talk about how disgusting old people are to be somewhat disturbing to me. It smacks of ageism. To be worthy of someone's attention and care, must one one be young and beautiful? Do you feel sorry for the woman, when you see a fat old man walk down the street with his fat old wife, and think about what she may do with him in bed? Do you feel sorry for him as well, since he also sleeps with an old, wrinkled lady? Is it some kind of sin these days to get old? We will all be old someday. You talk as if that fact never occurred to you. Is there no beauty and worthiness in people but that which we can see with our eyes, and touch with our hands?

I understand your reaction, because once when I came late to a bar to see a pretty young BG, she had given up on me, and went with an old, fat, and quite ugly man who had been buying her drinks for several days, at least, ever since the night I met her, and took her away from him. They had just walked out of the bar when I approached. I spoke with her. She was quite pleased to be going with him, had a big smile, was very relaxed, and not at all disgusted, or disappointed that she missed her chance with me, a much younger, fitter, and better looking man than the one she was with. Not that she wouldn't have went with me, had I been more punctual, but she had no qualms about going with him, and didn't see anything disgusting about it at all. She said she liked him, and was looking forward to spending the evening with him.

I thought about it. There are two ways to look at it. 1)be disgusted 2)accept that not everyone shares that reaction, and isn't it a wonderful world, where even a fat, ugly, old man can find a pretty young lady to take his arm, and walk out of the bar, with a glowing smile on her face, quite pleased with his company and not at all trepiditious about the events the night will bring later on(going to bed with him). Is it a terrible thing that he can find such pleasure and comfort in his declining years? Or is it a wonderful thing, that there are young ladies such as Oh, who are pleased to be in his company for the evening?

If everyone was so easily disgusted, where would we get surgeons, podiatrists, emergency room nurses and doctors, etc.? I have numerous times talked to young women in the US who work in old age homes, performing chores such as changing soiled sheets, among other tasks, who tell me how delighted they are to work with the old people and how good it makes them feel to share time with the aged and listen to their stories. And I have spoken to a few BGs who said they prefer to go with old men, for whatever reason. Thank God that we have people such as these. They are wonderful human beings!

On a recent visit to see my old mother, she was limping, and complained that her feet hurt her. I often give women foot massages, and thought about offering to do so for her. I looked at her feet. Disgusting! I thought. Old, rough, wrinkled, and a little bit scaly, with years of callouses, bunions and the like. She had a bacterial infection on one foot, that the doctors and nurses treating her had been unable to heal. Her nurse treated and dressed it in bandages each day, but there had been no improvement in over a month. She was depressed and felt that it would never heal. When I removed the dressing, it was an ugly sight, and my mind recoiled. But then I thought, she's your mother, for Christ's sake, have a little mercy! So I took her feet in my hands, and massaged them, not just as lovingly as I would for a pretty woman, but more so, because she is my mother. And I found a remarkable thing happened. I wasn't disgusted at all. Once I got used to the feel of her feet, I found it quite pleasant to massage them, and when she smiled at me, I felt better than if it had been a beautiful young woman whose feet I was massaging. I went to a health food store and bought some golden seal and myrhh, put it in a large pot of hot water and bathed the infection with it every day, twice a day, and afterwards gave her a foot massage. When I left to return to my home a week later, she was walking without a limp, and thanked me for my efforts. The infection was almost completely healed and not long afterwards, she told me that all signs of the infection were gone and her feet felt well again. That was a lesson for me that I won't soon forget.

JayBee

 

[SystemFailure]

Started reading this thread,seems to be going over the same shite again and again..........but it did make me think that while eurothaigirl was writing how horrified she is about the father/son thing the`re probably out there having a ball sinking singas and checking out the local talent...............
geeezus for f**** sake I`d much rather that than some of the religious wackos.poisoning there childrens minds with their hatred and other issues

 

[rayb1214]

It is funny, but when i have had arguments with with a couple of people here, they always say that they have recieved PM`s from BM`s that says that they are afraid to post. The only thing i say about that is piss off then and go back and watch Teletubbies or what they like....

Another funny thing is this thing with reputation...
Not that i care about how many green boxes i have, but when i give someone a reputation, i always say why i do it..And write my name.
I have now recieved a couple of red one, with comments like ugly wanker, grow up,Piss off.... And honestly, if someone put their name behind those words, i maybe could be affected. But when they dont, i couldnt care less... So come on now, show me if you are brave enough to stand for your words or if you just sit and hide behind the computer...

 

[Platobeenz]

Nice analogy Jaybee I basically agree with this I think the smart women will give up power for the good of the relationship but still get what she wants in the end, a happy ending for all.

 

[Nev]

I must have missed this.. Theres a Bed Supperclub clone in Surin now ?? Same kind of chill out tunes etc as BKK ???

Problem for Silks / Watermark / Red Room and all is that despite being great resturants and places to go for a quality eating experience its (sorry Robert) hardly what I would qualify as 'nightlife'..

 

[Hamster Tycoon]

Is Surin ok for nightlife? I found a nice flat there but I am worried about being too far from Patong...kind of damned if I do damned if I don't.

 

[darl]

LivinLos I do not have a beef with you either and for the record am sure I can have fun wherever I go but would prefer to just find non-bg scene places to have more fun!

I also want to address your abc below as it is very misleading:

A) being with a BG was touching more **** than being with a LB (sounds to me like putting BG's down)

I certainly do not think it is putting down bg's. My point was that the level of paranoia I was reading on that thread made me wonder how these same guys could so easily go to bed with someone who has arguably seen more dicks than a urinal at a footie game! If that disturbs anyone that I incinuate they have had their fair share of men, then I would suggest they check what reality they are living in. It is essentially their profession and is no different than saying someone working in a pub has pulled a lot of pints! If you choose to read negativity in that, then that is on you not me. I certainly can say I have seen my fair share too, doesn't make me a bad person or them for that matter.

B) fat old farang comment

Fat old farang comment can be offensive and I in retrosrpect realise this. But the general image in Thailand among the non scene people is just that. I heard this expression from my Thai friends both male and female.

C) a new HIV thread (a prime Thai girls are infected target..

That is a fact though. Thai girls are infected at much higher rates than western girls and girls on the scene even more disproprtionately affected. It is sad but true and my post there was more to make sure guys who do indulge do so with all the facts and make sure they protect themselves.

 

[Jason]

in your treadd - stupygirl is cumming - you asked all the questions , like were to go and what to do.
now i must find out that you were allready here, what you try to do
Fool the People

:aao:

yupha

 

[Pompal 09.]

I would not want religious wackos having a similar place in a kids life either. But nor would I want a dad taking his son to see hookers!

 

[-Karma-]

Hi all,

This is my first post. Just wanted to add my two satang on nightlife options in Phuket if you want to avoid the P4P, or at least as much as can be done. I don't want to get into any moral or ethical debate, just have some info that may or not be useful, so here goes.

Pretty much all of Patong has some elements of P4P. Yes Banana Disco, Safari and Tai Pan are great fun, lots of young party goers, couples, some good Thai girls, BUT also freelancers etc.

Places without that element:

Kata, the area around Taina Road has a few nice bars, massageplanete del Mar for example. Reggae Bar on the beach is also quite fun.

The 3 bars in Nai Harn by the lake. The first one is a reggae bar, i've forgotten the name, is a great place to chill.

Freedom Bar in Rawai.

Phuket City. Plenty of places. Jammin', as mentioned earlier. Pretty decent band, mixed Thai and expat crowd. Kor Tor Mor bar, mostly dressed up Thai party goers, mostly Thai music but also DJ spinning some hip hop etc. Very fun vibe. Not a BG in sight. Other bars next to Kor Tor Mor such as XVI (sixteen), a kind of trendy chillout lounge, Rad and Yaramba, similar to Kor Tor Mor (lots of young Thais). There's also O'Malley's in Phuket City. Small "Irish Bar" with mostly young expat crowd.

There are plenty of other places that i could mention but these are the places i go to.

Hope this helps.

 

[CasualFan blocks idiots]

A moderators nightmare!!! Not really a direction this board is likely to take or should!!!

 

[?h??? ???? h???]

check out the Galaxy on the soi where the Expat is located, one block north of Bangla Raod on Rat-u-thit on the right hand side. It's a club with live thai music in a relax atmosphere favor by the locals.